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No, they are overpaid as it. 25% if not more.
You mean 20%, right?
4/5 = 80%.
No, they are overpaid as it. 25% if not more.
Jack knows public school are like tax-supported prisons. Take away compulsory attendance laws and compulsory school taxes and it's highly likely that most public schools would go out of business. Jack knows the teachers as a whole suck ass, overpaid, not qualified and are not held accountable just like most government workers. Jack is not religious
Why don't you go yourself and call it a day?
LOL...
Maybe in your state. I know they are over paid in my state. Just thought you might have done the math wrong as 5/4 is +25%.
Dan... jack is right.
Why should government employees get better wages and benefits than the majority of the population?
Shouldn't the public servants actually act like servants, instead of elitists?
I thought I read somewhere Texas had the highest dropout rate in nation.
Jack's an idiot not worth addressing...if you drop teacher salaries, better teachers will just move onto other careers, since they are highly qualified professionals and education will get worse, not better...
Dumbass, you addressed "jack" a few minutes ago and I wasn't even speaking to you. You're a moron.
Anyone that has any clue whatsoever knows the US education system is and throwing more money at it is a waste of time. I say change the format to 4 days a week, save some money, cut some jobs and stop wasting our kids time.
Believe it or not, there are ways to discipline kids without corporal punishment that are very effective...
Believe as you wish. My opinion is that base salaries need to be lowered, then they can also have a merit pay. That's one think collective bargaining does, is it destroys individual bargaining. If you really want the best, you allow merit pay, for incentive not to be the lowest common denominator.
Merit pay is stupid...let's say your a very good teacher, are you going to stay at a poor district knowing that your salary could be cut because you just happened to have a year or two, or three, where the kids lacked behavior management or a stable home and your scores suffered because of it? no, your gonna move onto a rich district where the kids don't have all these issues...
Then why isn't it done in our schools?
Why do we allow the Sweathogs to run wild in our schools?
There you go Dan with your lowest common denominator thinking.
I have met so many teachers, not all, but LOTS of teachers that deserve no more pay than what a babysitter should receive. It's a fairytale to think they deserve/earn the type of money,benifits they get. Total joke.
less time in school, more time in front of a t.v. i guess.
Really? you think schools still run like that? if your serious this conversation is over....when you can talk like an adult, we'll talk...
LOL... No, I just thought it was funny.
Loved that show when it aired.
I'm being truthful...why would a good teacher risk part of his/her salary dealing with kids with a bunch or personal/psychological/behavioral issues when he/she can make more not dealing with them?
Schools want students to pass no matter how uneducated they are just so they can keep getting more money from the government. Check out whats happening in Atlanta. Would anyone be surprised if those who are found to be guilty of cheating still keep their jobs or atleast thier pensions/benifits? I wouldn't. They will blame the governemnt and parents, never themselves.
Last edited by jack sommerset; 08-24-2011 at 06:49 PM.
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You can thank dubya and his No Child Left Behind for that one.
Throwing more money at the problem isn't going to solve it. Having kids skip days in school is not going to solve it either.
Schools don't make the curriculum, politicians make the curriculum....that's like nurses making policy for police....it's stupid, and as long as it remains that way it will stay stupid...in Finland, the best education country in the world, educators make curriculum and education policy....teachers are paid to pursue higher degrees and are valued in society more than doctors and most other professions...
Link backing that up?
And is it the government employee fault that they were able to negotiate good wages/benefits, or is it the fault of whoever agreed to those terms?
He won't be able to back that up....a master's degree with 10-15 years of experience should earn you well into the 60's-70's or more in the private world, in education you'd just be cracking the 50's...
Bingo...
There is nobody truly on the tax payer side when negotiation with unions over government jobs.
You made my point without knowing it.
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