Can we actually talk basketball instead of krew fapping?

[Venti Quattro]

Is it okay to say though that Dwight and LeBron are on the same plateau...they both haven't developed a consistent post game.

[Venti Quattro]

Funny how Howard's lack of a polished offensive game is at the center of their argument while Dirk's defense gets swept under the rug.

Only a complete idiot/dirk fanboy would take Dirk over Dwight. A championship doesnt change that. Dirk's great offensive game doesnt change that. You dont take a great offensive player over a player putting up 23 ppg while simultaneously being the biggest defensive force in the league. Its much easier to build around Dwight then it was around Dirk, Otis Smith just happens to be an idiot.

It's easier to take Dirk because Dwight is a mental midget. Dirk has tier teammates but he is not a mental midget.

[DeadlyDynasty]

It's easier to take Dirk because Dwight is a mental midget. Dirk has tier teammates but he is not a mental midget.

lolwut?

[DPG21920]

Ball.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Ball.

Don't talk about the guy Cully said would take the Sns to the finls

[DeadlyDynasty]

yeah barea and old ass jason terry are quality 2nd options

Are you really going to make the argument that Orlando's supporting cast was better than Dallas' this past year?

[Venti Quattro]

lolwut?

You're right. What I meant is that Dirk also had mental midgets for teammates in the past but that has been put to rest now.

crofl Venti Quattro's basketball takes

crofl making excuses

[FkLA]

Dwight seems to be too goofy and seems to lack that killer instinct, but where does the mental midget label come from? I cant think of a big game where I saw Dwight play where I was thinking...wow this choked. Meanwhile Dirks had his share of those games and prior to this season was rightfully considered a choker.

Yall s are putting too much stock into how great of a closer Dirk is. Like Harlem said hes been a better closer than Duncan, Shaq, Garnett throughout this decade...that dont mean hes been a better player than any of them though. Same here, Dirks offensive greatness & clutchness doesnt override Dwights 23 ppg & his defensive impact.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Dwight seems to be too goofy and seems to lack that killer instinct, but where does the mental midget label come from? I cant think of a big game where I saw Dwight play where I was thinking...wow this choked. Meanwhile Dirks had his share of those games and prior to this season was rightfully considered a choker.

Yall s are putting too much stock into how great of a closer Dirk is. Like Harlem said hes been a better closer than Duncan, Shaq, Garnett throughout this decade...that dont mean hes been a better player than any of them though. Same here, Dirks offensive greatness & clutchness doesnt override Dwights 23 ppg & his defensive impact.

Game 4 of the 2009 Finals when he went Nick Anderson at the FT line (w/ a 3 point lead)

[FkLA]

Game 4 of the 2009 Finals when he went Nick Anderson at the FT line (w/ a 3 point lead)

shoots in the 50s% from the line, Id hardly call that choking. Dirks miss in 06' against the Heat though, that was a choke.

[DeadlyDynasty]

shoots in the 50s% from the line, Id hardly call that choking. Dirks miss in 06' against the Heat though, that was a choke.

Shooting 50% at the line on that trip would've sealed a Magic win and tied the series at 2 apiece. He's there #1 and leader of that team...gotta sink one of those. He choked there, but yeah...he's not really known to be a career choker.

[Stalin]

Dirk has been choking his whole career, while having stacked teams, and one of the highest payrolls, year after year. He finally gets lucky, after spurs and lakers decline, and now mavfan is fapping to this nazi , and saying he's the best in the league.

[lefty]

Shooting 50% at the line on that trip would've sealed a Magic win and tied the series at 2 apiece. He's there #1 and leader of that team...gotta sink one of those. He choked there, but yeah...he's not really known to be a career choker.

Brian Hill was worse though

He tried to be so ing nice.......they should have fouled Kenny Smith instead of letting him take that game tying 3 pointer

After the game, when asked why he didnt tell his players to foul Smith, he said that he wasn't that type of coach

Yeah, look where that got you

[Leetonidas]

Better now is easily Dirk. But as far as who would I take on my team going forward? Easily Howard. Dude is like 24 years old still, his best years are ahead of him. I mean he took a team featuring Turkoglu, Rashard Lewis, and J.J. Red to the Finals, not as impressive as Dirk winning this season but still

[Venti Quattro]

I don't know if this has been brought up but since we are talking about Dwight vs Dirk here:

2011 dem Mavs vs 2009 Magic -- who wins in a seven-game series?

[Leetonidas]

Hmm good question, I was inclined to say the Mavericks but I'm not too sure after thinking about it. Outside of the two main players who are both top 5 players in the league the rest of the teams are very close. I'd take Mavs because Van Gundy sucks ass as a coach and Carlisle has always been a good one.

[lefty]

I don't know if this has been brought up but since we are talking about Dwight vs Dirk here:

2011 dem Mavs vs 2009 Magic -- who wins in a seven-game series?

Good question

They had Pietrus and he wasn't lazy back then.
Turkoglu had by far his best postseason.
Both players offered matchup problems.

I've always thought that Rafer Alston was the perfect PG to run that team, he always set the perfect tempo; never been a fan of Jameer
.I don't know why Jeremy played Nelson in the FInals, considering he just came back for an injury

The mavs didnt have Chandler back then


I pick Magic in 6

[Venti Quattro]

The mavs didnt have Chandler back then

2011 Mavs.

[lefty]

2011 Mavs.

Aw

Dizzy

Then Magic in 7

[Venti Quattro]

My pick: Dallas in 5. With or without home court adv.

[JoeTait75]

People really underrate Dallas's supporting cast, imho.

[DPG21920]

Just mav fans to prop up Dirk.

[stretch]

People really underrate Dallas's supporting cast, imho.

sadly so. it wasnt an extremely talented cast, but it was a very well balanced crew, and they gave him the help in areas where the team needed it most. gotta give Donnie credit, he put together a very balaned team, despite not being your "typical" championship team of 2 superstars and a group of role players that don't completely blow ass.

[DeadlyDynasty]

sadly so. it wasnt an extremely talented cast, but it was a very well balanced crew, and they gave him the help in areas where the team needed it most. gotta give Donnie credit, he put together a very balaned team, despite not being your "typical" championship team of 2 superstars and a group of role players that don't completely blow ass.

This x100. The 2011 Mavs roster fit perfectly--all the pieces they had played clearly defined roles. Furthermore--they were all needed, and you'd be hard-pressed to subs ute any one of them for somebody else and get the same chemistry and camaraderie. The Spurs championship teams could've switched out anybody at Center (as well as a good portion of their bench). Dallas' pieces fit perfectly like a puzzle. The only team in recent memory that comes close to having that kind of roster is the 2003-2005 Detroit Pistons (but even their bench was not as valuable as Dallas').

I'm not saying Dallas is the best team ever by any stretch, but all their pieces fit just about as good as any I've ever seen.

[Fpoonsie]

*fap-fap-fap* NRK fo' LYFE *fap-fap*