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I haven't read it, and won't but I included the if because I was not sure. I just think relying on CBS and ESPN to consider it in their best interests to renegotiate is pretty big risk. Why would they want to void it and pay more to the SEC?
There is no such clause in the contract with SEC and their TV contract. There is a provision that if there is a significant change in the conference that the TV contract "could" be renegotiated, not that the TV contract "couldn't" be renegotiated if A&M went to the SEC.
I think you and Blake are also failing to realize that "if" and/or "when" A&M leaves the Big 12 that TV contract will most likely be voided and renegoiated. Now depending on what happens with the conference this could either make A&M look briliant or stupid. There are a lot of scenarios that could play out "if" and/or "when" A&M leaves as far as TV contracts go for the rest of that conference if there is a conference left.
I haven't read it, and won't but I included the if because I was not sure. I just think relying on CBS and ESPN to consider it in their best interests to renegotiate is pretty big risk. Why would they want to void it and pay more to the SEC?
fair enough.
I think so too, but sometimes gambles pay off. "IF" A&M goes to the SEC and they don't renegotiate or wait until a 14th team is added then A&M likely makes less money in TV dollars in the short term. I do think that if the SEC gets to 14 teams that the SEC would be able to convinvce the TV folks that a significant change has been made and re-open the negoiation process.
"IF" A&M goes to the SEC and the Big 12 implodes, i.e. Texas goes independent and everyone else is left scrambling then A&M wins pretty big in terms of TV dollars compared to the rest of the Big 12 sans Texas.
Yes, big risk, maybe not so much of a big reward, but that will be determined sometime down the road when the dust settles.
Well the TV folks wouldn't if just A&M gets in, because the way I understood the contract was that a signioficant chnage had to occur in order to be able to renegotiate the contract and I persoanlly can't see the SEC convincing the TV folks that A&M alone does that, I could be wrong on that, but I think if the SEC were to add A&M and a team outside its current footprint, like a Virginia Tech type I think the SEC would then have the leverage so say the conference has siginficantly changed and added several TV markets and thus more money to the pot then the TV folks would renegotiate.
From what I've read, the contract states that if the conference changes the # of teams within the conference, the contract will be renegotiated. With all the BS flying around, no one will know until the dust settles. Pretty useless speculating on anything right now.
I realize it.
I don't think the new big xii contract will get worse after negotiations.
When the dust settles and we are ten years down the road, I have a hard time believing this will end up being anything more than a lateral move financially for A&M.
You think that the big 12 will be around in 10 years?
Depends on who the Big XII adds to replace A&M.
I think adding BYU UH and/or even Air Force would solidify the conference enough to last that long.
Maybe there's an answer to this question I don't know about, but why doesn't the idea of TCU joining the Big 12 ever come up?
They don't add any TVs.
TCU is already top dog in a BCS conference. No reason to give that up just to move to another BCS conference where they'd have Texas and OU in their way.
If anyone in the big 12 believed this, A&M never would have gotten the Texas/OU sized share of the B12's TV deal that they did.
The big 12 won't be around in 10 years. Or if it is, it won't have Texas and OU in it.When the dust settles and we are ten years down the road, I have a hard time believing this will end up being anything more than a lateral move financially for A&M.
So conversely, the Big[insert random integer here] doesn't lose any TVs with A&M's departure.
So you believe that if the current b12 contract is voided that a school like tech will actually get less money during the re-negotiation?
I don't.
as I said before, i believe that OU is the jenga piece, not missouri.The big 12 won't be around in 10 years. Or if it is, it won't have Texas and OU in it.
As long as OU and UT stay together, you will always have tech, okie st and baylor.
If houston joins, they will always feed off ut the same as tech and baylor.
Losing mizz would hurt, but I think adding byu and air force would make it alright.
Last edited by Blake; 08-31-2011 at 06:12 PM.
Well you haven't mentioned that specifically in your past arguments, so I can't assume that you actually did realize "it" until you admit that you actually have realized "it".
That is the million dollar question. Depends on who replaces A&M and how many. If Texas goes independent that would put a huge dent in the Big 12 as a conference.
Perhaps. I think initially it will be a lateral move financially for A&M. Just depends on what happens to the Big 12 once they leave ten years down the road to make that comparison.
Big 12 is not adding Houston. Texas will leave if they do, and that'll be the end of the conference.
http://espn.go.com/colleges/oklahoma...ce-realignmentIf OU wants the Big 12 to survive, it will. But if the Sooners decide the Big 12 it's not worth salvaging, the league will quickly dissolve.
This time around, Texas does not hold all the cards and the Sooners have fewer obstacles in their path to another conference.
Actually DeLoss Dodds has a 512 area code but the rest of the number is correct. Maybe that's why no one has called.
omg it must have been teh aggiez in the legislature!!The Sooners were all set to go to the Pac-12 with the Longhorns last summer, until the Texas state legislature reportedly stopped the deal at the final hour.
Big [insert random integer here] - 3 teams in Texas
Adding TCU doesn't add a new market. It adds TCU fans, not new markets. Markets are the factor that is important.
BYU is going to get the invite. ND would have but they aren't joining.
Seems like BYU fans really want to make the jump. We'll see what their administration decides, though.
If Texas really wants to keep the conference afloat they need BYU in.
Neb wants to change conferences for their own sake: Fine
Col wants to change: Fine
Utah wants to change: Fine
Boise State, TCU, etc. etc: All Fine
A&M wants to change: Quick someone put a stop to it!
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