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lol yall mad at Malone
why not bring up the other dozens upon dozens of players who have dominated Duncan and have better career numbers? yall hate on Malone because deep inside you .... you know the truth.
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lol yall mad at Malone
why not bring up the other dozens upon dozens of players who have dominated Duncan and have better career numbers? yall hate on Malone because deep inside you .... you know the truth.
If he ranks 33rd and 22nd all-time in those respective categories, how in the are there supposed to be "dozens and dozens" of players with better stats than him?
It's not like we're talking about David West here.
63-121?
Son in case you don't understand...
1 dozen = 12
There are 32 players who have dominated Duncan in scoring aka nearly 3 dozen
There are 21 players who have dominated Duncan in rebounding aka nearly 2 dozen
This is simple son. Please pay attention
Sorry, bro. Dozens and dozens implies a lot more than 50.
Don't matter anyhow. Career totals are a re ed thing to cite when comparing players or judging a player's all time great status. I don't think Larry Bird has one top 30 career total stat on his sheet, yet he is without a doubt the best SF of all time.
LOL!
So Spur fan is still using the ignorant and childish argument that "the regular season doesn't count" ... yet when measuring individual players greatness in ANY professional or college sport has always been do ented by regular season stats.
Son I guess guys like Dan Marino was just a scrub according to your logic ...same for any other all time greats in any sport who weren't lucky enough to play on stacked teams.
By your logic, Larry Bird isn't even a top 30 great.
BR, if you're going to cite regular season stats, cite AVERAGES, not career totals. Your re ed mentality would have a player who played 30 years and averaged 10 points a game above a player who played 10 years and averaged 20 points a game.
BR got your panties in a twist...and it is a delight to watch....
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Clutchness in the Championship.
1998 Jazz leading 86-85 with 14 seconds left and ballhog Malone with the ball. He not only fails to get a shot off or better yet pass, the dumbass gets stripped. Jordan scores with 5 seconds left. Loser Malone.
2007 Finals game on the line and Timmy Duncan comes out to the front court on D and steals the ball from LeBron. 4th Championship.
But BRButthurt doesn't value defense, only who scores more points when the game is not on the line.
comparing playing Jordan's Bulls to playing the worst Finals participant in NBA history
I often dip my balls in white chocolate and then in a confection and sprinkles. BR loves them.
I guess you haven't been watching since Jordan retired then. Only explanation I could possibly come up with. Unless you want to make the argument for LeBron based on pure talent alone.
dan marino did suck
LOL Duncan 2nd best to Jordan ....
maybe for the 1999 season ...maybe, maybe you could also argue 2003-2005 but every other year since MJ ...Shaq, Kobe, Lebron, dirk and others have all clearly been better.
shaq had a better peak, Kobe has been conisistently great for a longer period ...same for Dirk. Lebron obviously has the talent to pass them all. But there is only a short window where any reasonable basketball fan can argue that Duncan was the best.
And you could also argue that Duncan, Shaq, Dirk, and Lebron have all been better than Kobe at one time or another aside from the '08 and '09 seasons (the years I felt Kobe was the clear top dog in the league. And no, I don't think he was the best during his '06 chuckfest. In the playoffs against the Suns, he really didn't make too much noise in that series outside of that one 50 point game. He had a strong series, but Wade and Dirk and even Duncan were having a better playoffs).
From '99 to '05, Duncan was either the best or second best player in the league. Six years being the best or second best player in the NBA when a peak Shaq is also in the same league hardly qualifies as a "short window."
I didnt say he (duncan) was best I said you could argue the fact. Look Im not one of the Laker fans who will tear tim down to raise Kobe or even shaq who I never liked ...
duncan to me was the best player from 2003-2005 .... but prior to that shaq was clearly better ...Kobe and others had a case (though I still thought tim was better) and by 2006 duncan was not better than Kobe, chuckfest or not.
Being an elite player for 7 years and the best player in the NBA for 3 is not a short window for a typical HOF'er ...but when you compare Duncan to Kobe and MJ which this thread did (best player since MJ) or look at the peak of the guys BR mentioned (all time great HOf'ers) duncan falls short. doesnt mean he is not great but he is wanting when it comes up to elite numbers and I dont feel it was enough to pass Kobe who is far closer to elite than duncan is for over the past 4 seasons ...and was to me just a notch behind him for most of the years that duncan was the best player.
Steve Nash has two MVPs and no rings.
This should answer a lot of questions people might have about the past decade in ball.
There's a lot of overrating going on.
Shaq and Kobe have been the best players in the league, every year since 1999.
Up to LeBron
I would give duncan the edge for at least 2 of the 3 seasons between 2003-2005 ...
Lebron has been the best the past two seasons definitely ...
But for most of the last decade it was shaq to start Duncan a small time in the middle and Kobe to close. Kobe was the only one that stayed elite the whole decade that is why I have him over duncan and shaq ...yes you can argue that Shaq especially were more dominat, they are big men they should be. But Kobe wa sin the convo starting in 2001 and was still in it in 2010 ... neither duncan or shaq can say that.
Duncan put up elite big man numbers in the playoffs for 11 seasons straight, nearly every one of those seasons were better than Karl Malone's single best playoff season. How does Duncan fall short again? Oh, because he didn't stat during the regular season for the majority of his career?
Duncan detractors or critics would be wise to dismiss his regular season output. Ever since '06, Duncan has been on cruise control during the regular season.
Im not either one. but that kind of cruise control is why I dont have shaq on the same level with Hakeem or Kareem. sure the playoffs matter more. But 82 games of excellence is far more data than a 30 game playoff run.
I think you have to count both to be honest ...Why would you dismiss 75% of the season?!
I think you misunderstood me. He wasn't on cruise control with regard to his drive or motivation, but with his intensity. Big men are typically more prone to breaking down than guards, so it wouldn't make any sense for a team with depth like the Spurs to ride Duncan into the ground over 82 games. I agree that sometimes Pop gets obsessive about managing Duncan's minutes, but ultimately, it's the right move.Im not either one. but that kind of cruise control is why I dont have shaq on the same level with Hakeem or Kareem. sure the playoffs matter more. But 82 games of excellence is far more data than a 30 game playoff run.
I think you have to count both to be honest ...Why would you dismiss 75% of the season?!
Props to Duncan not being a stat , and being smart enough to pick his spots.
Undisputed best Power Forward of all time.
I guess I see your point there. I don't agree with it, but I understand your point of view.
It's similar to how Kobe's stats are relatively unimpressive for the so-called greatest scorer in the game. You'd think the "greatest scorer in the game" would lead the league in scoring more than 2 times over a 15 year career. And when we look at his shooting percentage, his lack of scoring effectiveness as compared to his reputation is even more pronounced. A true great scorer can fill up the PPG stat and shoot a high percentage. Kobe's never been able to do both, because he's a chucker.
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