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    By their nature all environmental regulations make it more expensive for corporations and thereby hurt job growth. So if you're stipulation for regulations is that they not hurt job growth then you're not in favor of any environmental regulations that are actually necessary. Any regulation that does not make it more expensive for a corporation is likely not needed as the corporation would take the cheaper route already.

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    Regs protecting workers and the environment internalize the costs.

    No regs externalize the costs of UCA damage to workers and environment.

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    You don't think so? When it came to business, he was ruthless...

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    You Lie

    It's the absence of regs protecting Human-Chinese that makes their crap so cheap but their babies so still-born or maimed, and their people so diseased and cancerous.

    Repug solution? import by the boatload Chinese disregard for humans to increase profits (but it won't increase (good) US jobs)
    you ing moron

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    scott and his VLWC!


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    The vast majority of them? You can't honestly be making this argument?

    No, I'm serious.

    Other than hyperbole, or, "they all do". Is there a link to a legitimate politician or leader of the Libertarian party in which that person argues AGAINST regulating, again specifically, INDUSTRIAL polluters (maybe there is; don't run in those circles myself - though I certainly have the predisposition).

    The left and right question btw, was aimed simply at Boutons and the VRWC bomb he dropped - which has gotten plenty of play in this thread already anyway.

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    VRWC strategy has been so effective (easy against the less Dems) that the Dems have moved to the right and protecting/enriching the VRWC assholes, eg, Clinton getting suckered by Rubin, etc to kill Glass-Steagal, the current bunch of less Dems being suckered into the bogus deficit problem, when the priority is jobs (for Dems, for blacks, etc), NOT the deficit.

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    Ignoring the deluded libertarians, does anybody have any evidence that self-regulation has ever worked?

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    No, I'm serious.

    Other than hyperbole, or, "they all do". Is there a link to a legitimate politician or leader of the Libertarian party in which that person argues AGAINST regulating, again specifically, INDUSTRIAL polluters (maybe there is; don't run in those circles myself - though I certainly have the predisposition).

    The left and right question btw, was aimed simply at Boutons and the VRWC bomb he dropped - which has gotten plenty of play in this thread already anyway.
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    specifically Ron Paul is for the elimination of the EPA and for polluters to only answer property owners.

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    That's why America and H-A's are so ed and un able because the VRWC+govt power center has so much power it can't be defeated, and power is never yielded without violence.
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    " Science has given you your mandate, people: Go blow some up."

    I'm gonna pass on that particular manifesto.

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    Only those who don't shop at Walmart should be able to criticize China.

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    Only those who don't shop at Walmart should be able to criticize China.
    You are such a tool.

    Haven't you noticed... Walmart carries the same products as other stores!

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    You are such a tool.
    American made tool I hope.

    Haven't you noticed... Walmart carries the same products as other stores!
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    I get what you are saying, but you specifically targeted Walmart. Their major compe ors sell mostly the same products too. You can buy American made products in Walmart. They do have them you know...

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    I get what you are saying, but you specifically targeted Walmart. Their major compe ors sell mostly the same products too. You can buy American made products in Walmart. They do have them you know...
    Are you saying Walmart could stay open and fully stocked w/o China?



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    Are you saying Walmart could stay open and fully stocked w/o China?


    Most stores can't. Why are you targeting only Walmart? They by no means have a monopoly on Chinese goods.

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    walmart ain't the only retailing corp that sells chinese made bads in the US but they have almost monopolized the retailing business in US and maybe around the world as well. their retailing network gives chinese products protection from anti-dumping duty, which would otherwise tax the out of these heads tbh. the question is not whether wal-mart will survive w/o china, even if there was no wal-mart the s would find other US retailers to help them invade the US economically, the question is if the 's would've made such a great fortune over only 20yrs something w/o wal-mart or any other american retailer acting as their accomplices tbh

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    Horrific Fire Revealed a Gap in Safety for Global Brands

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/wo...s&emc=rss&_r=0


    Walmart said no to paying for fire safety in Bangladesh factories

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/1...28Daily+Kos%29

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    Horrific Fire Revealed a Gap in Safety for Global Brands

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/wo...s&emc=rss&_r=0


    Walmart said no to paying for fire safety in Bangladesh factories

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/1...28Daily+Kos%29
    Interesting.

    I fire alarm goes off... the fire system works... managers order employees to stay saying it's a test, and it Walmarts fault?

    My God Boutons. Are you really that brainwashed?

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    Are you saying Walmart could stay open and fully stocked w/o China?



    No answer?

    Tell me how would Walmarts shelves look if you left only American made products on them?


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    No answer?

    Tell me how would Walmarts shelves look if you left only American made products on them?

    How would most stores look if you applied the same criteria to them?

    I ask again...

    Why are you only targeting Walmart?
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 12-12-2012 at 07:33 AM.

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