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Which of those teams were legendary/great teams, did any of those teams compare to Jordan's Bulls that Barkley/Malone faltered against? If so which one?Thats my only point noone is saying the Mavs had an easy road you ing homer, just that it was easier than what Malone/Barkley had to go through during their era. Only a complete imbecile full of homerism would claim that this era of basketball is more compe ive than the 90s.
As far as supporting casts go, Jason Terry averaged 18 ppg on 48% shooting. People like to look at the fact that hes not a big name 2nd option instead of simply looking at his performance, which was very respectable for a 2nd option. The rest of the guys hit their shots as well...Dirk certainly made it easier for them by getting them open looks, but those s still had to hit those big shots and they did. Defensively, Dirk was the worst defender in that starting line-up. He had alot of help defensively, Dirk was great offensively but that doesnt finally win one without the defensive effort of the rest of the guys. This whole notion that Dirk did it alone that yall homers try to spin is ridiculous...notice how almost any other non-Mav fan is able to see that
no way Mchale is better than Malone, other than that the list isnt bad
not in order, Duncan, KG, Dirk, Malone, and Pe t are top 5 PF alltime
Dallas had a great supporting cast. Kinda like an offensive version of the 2004 Pistons. Dirk had one of the best shooting seasons I hve ever seen. anytime he shot regular season, playoffs are Finals I thought it was going in.
But considering they had the #2 highest payroll to act like it was Dirk, Terry and Tyson and some scrubs ...is pretty asinine. Marion, Butler, Kidd though past their peaks were legit all-stars at one point in their careers.
But someone made a great point before last season KG would get the nod over dirk ...so last season shouldnt make us overreact. that being said i love Dirk's game and think he took way to much heat for the playoff flops. Let's not overrate him, but give him the respect he deserved all along. Bening a champion secures him a spot ...amonmg the alltime great Pf's . Like Malone he still would be great without the ring ...but having one nudges jhim up just a bit ...but let's not get crazy.
I dont see why Mavs fans on Barea. He played damn well in the playoffs, and exposed the fact that Derek Fisher is actually 70 years old.
If you recall Tim badly sprained his ankle about a month before the regular season ended by landing on Rasheed's foot in a regular season game. When the playoffs started I don't think his ankle was anywhere near 100%, then against the Sonics he sprained the other one in game 6 of that series, so going into the finals he might have been playing on two bad ankles. I really think Tim would have done better and wrecked everyone if he went in closer to 100% for the whole playoffs.
Anyway, I was ecstatic to get the win against the Pistons considering their frontline was one of the best defensively that I've seen, but I take those ankle sprains into consideration during those playoffs, because he was really playing great before spraining that one in that regular season game against the Pistons, which also caused him to miss a month of game time before entering the playoffs. I personally think his overall FG% was lower for the whole playoffs because his ankles weren't in great shape. He also wasn't in the best game shape possible and fortunately Manu was able to beast until Tim was able to adjust.
injuries is your excuse?
kobe was banged up every postseason in 2008-2010 and still had a higher TS% and he is a 6'6" SG
Because apparently it's an insult to Dirk Nowitski to admit that there are other good players on the Dallas Mavericks.
Barea played decent enough at times in the playoffs, but for posters to say him being anything other than complete dog for the entire regular season is revisionist history at it's best. And let's not act like he didn't blow several point blank layups throughout the whole playoff run.
And FkLA is still sounding like a jealous got several months after 8 and the Mavs ringing. What a surprise
Meanwhile Lakers always have the top payroll and cough...cough some people want to act like Kobe is as good as Duncan.
Also Dallas had a lot of injuries that effectively eliminated 20+million of the payroll.
Dirk>Garnett, IMO. I'm not going to compare Dirk to players I haven't seen much of.
Hey everybody all injuries are the same.
Yep a finger injury is a lot worse a bad ankle sprain, especially for the premier pivot man in the NBA that anchors both the offense and defense of his team. A guy that relies on his post moves to dominate would not be affected much by a badly sprained ankle. A guy who has a bigger frame to carry around, a guy who has to dominate on both offense and defense would not be affected by an ankle sprain at all, let alone an ankle sprain on each foot. Any and all injuries are the same, and they should never be bought up, right?
Yep, Kobe's finger injuries are exactly the same. Everyone on the planet knows about them, yet hardly anyone recalls Tim was injured going into those playoffs. It's funny that Kobe says he doesn't make excuses for injuries, but everyone knows about nearly every injury he's had the last few years.
JamStone mentioned field goal percentage and you bring up Kobe, who is average in that area when compared to some of the best SGs of all time.
And FkLA is still sounding like a jealous got several months after 8 and the Mavs ringing. What a surprise
Nowitzki over Garnett, let alone Malone?
Kobe's knee has been banged up, especially in 2010 where he had it drained 3 times during the playoffs
and a finger injury for a perimeter player is big, and a knee injury for a player over 30 is big too
duncan was a 22/12 guy, lets not overrate him
Why would I be jealous?
And what exactly about any of my posts in this thread are a display of jealousy? Leave it to Mav homers to get offended when someone ranks Dirk as the 4th-5th best PF of al-time.
I guess in order to stop being jealous I need to rank Dirk 2nd, say he had absolutely no help this year, and that the team's the Mavs got past this season were on the level of MJ's Bulls that Malone & Barkley faltered against. God damn you homers crack me up
cue the 'youre just a butthurt fat ' go-to response...
Why would I be jealous?
Why would I be jealous?
Not sure who it was that said MCHale is #2 and could do what Duncan did, is seriously overstating Mchale and underrating Tim's imprtance to the Spurs.
McHale's post moves are even better than Duncan's great ones, but except for Free throws and maybe mid range jumpers I can not think of ANYTHING else that Mchale does on the same level as Duncan. Neither could guard a swift power forward ...and though Mchale was a Malone level type solid post defender duncan has been ne of the best help defenders in teh post over the past 30 years. That is why Lebron, kobe etc have dunked on his ass so much ...but that same efoort is a big part of the 4 les the Spurs have. don't get me wrong Mchale was great and you are right Celts needed him to win those rings ...
But to say Mchale could of been duncan ...doubtful. if you read Simmons book on basketball ...Bird expressed some frustration that Kevin did not have the drive to max out his talent. Mchale said he did not have the personality to shoot alone in a gym maniacally right after a tough loss or a win. IF the Celts won Kevein would rather enjoy a beer. Duncan, Kobe, MJ they have that drive the talented sidekicks like Worthy, Robinson and Mchale do not.
are those youtube vids somehow supposed to prove that Dirk is the 2nd best PF of all-time, that Dirk's supporting cast was complete , and that the four teams they beat on their way to a le were on the level of Jordan's Bulls??
Mav homers are hilarious
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