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They couldn't have gotten the guns anywhere else.... guns are so hard to come by in South America.
I didn't catch the whole interview, but a local radio talk show host was interviewing a guy who seems to have some facts on the Guns our government sold to Mexican drug cartels to trace. Seems it leads to our Secretary of States office, and maybe Hillary. Janet Napolitano was definitely involved, and speculation has it Obama was too.
How many heads may roll?
I haven't checked any facts yet, but maybe someone here is interested in doing so.
They couldn't have gotten the guns anywhere else.... guns are so hard to come by in South America.
Wow!
Talk radio!
They already have a scapegoat. Nothing else is going to happen. Just business.
"How many heads may roll?"
Note that the guys immediately responsible for this fiasco weren't fired, just re-assigned.
One you get above the poor whites, blacks, browns, there really is no more accountability for ups, crimes, malfeasance (eg: the banksters).
With no penalty, there is no motivation to be competent or legal.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 09-03-2011 at 11:44 AM.
this be trollin tbqh
Where's that picture of the boy and his dog praying together that timvp posts annually when Manu gets hurt?
WC bringing the full context goods.
X2
I personally suspect that "Fast and Furious" was intentionally orchestrated to "prove" that US guns were involved in Mexico drug violence in an attempt to bend public pressure to strengthening gun laws and imposing additional gun bans.
When the BP Agent was killed with F&F guns (instead of Mexican druggies) it threw a huge wrench into their plans and they went into full bore cover up mode to bury their .
And yeah, I believe knowledge went to the highest level of the Justice Department and State (if not Obama) but it will never be proven.
From what I heard, it's close to proving some connections.
Just have to wait and see.
I'll throw some speculative odds out there.
I'll say about a 30% chance Hillary knew.
I'll say about a 75% chance Obama new.
I'll say about a 95% chance Napolitano knew.
will any of them be brought down?
Maybe 50% chance of one or more cabinet member being caught.
You got all that from local radio talk show?
What is it with you?
The speculation is mine. Based on a few random thoughts of these people. I give Hillary credit for enough intelligence to not likely be part of this.
Just asking. Don't get all butthurt about it.
Not butthurt. Just tired of you always harassing me.
Just to be clear, you don't know what you're talking about.
Wild Cobra's speculation = always well-informed, wholly in context, and not in need of factual support
Anyone else's speculation = always biased, never in context, always in need of factual support
Questioning Wild Cobra's speculation = harassment
Wild Cobra questioning anyone else's speculation = ensuring balance
I personally think that's pretty far-fetched.
Tracking, sure... Planting guns with cartels because you're so ideologically anti-guns that you want to increase gun violence to prove a point? There's not enough money to be made with gun legislation for me to buy that theory.
Classic.
Gun legislation is a tough one because there's opposition on both sides. Many Democrats are gun owners, especially Southern Dems.
IOW, butthurt
100s went to jail for the S&L fiasco, dozens of LAWYERS went to jail for the filthy Repug Nixon's WH, but criminals and ups don't even get fired these days.
American Officials Enjoy Lives Without Shame
Once upon a time, there was a specific word to describe the misdeed of an officeholder or custodian of trust who had betrayed his or her duties: malfeasance.
That word, originating from ancient Latin, can be translated into modern English to mean a “bad doing.”
If you believe the old tales, malfeasance once was an offense that carried stiff penalties: public humiliation, social ostracism, and civil or criminal sanctions.
And in traditional cultures with shame, a disgraced official would resign—or worse.
No longer, it seems.
Three recent news headlines allege some pretty horrifying behavior and illustrate how shameless some American officials have become when it comes to breaking the rules or messing up and pretending that everything is still OK. They also prove that in modern America, if you have the right connections, it’s possible for screwups to continue their lives and careers with hardly a blip.
People are allowed to make mistakes. And I don’t believe in silly doctrines like zero-tolerance or police-state surveillance.
But individuals who have previously displayed poor judgment or a lack of oversight should not be placed in charge of investigations, and ins utions with a culture of corruption occasionally must be rebooted from zero.
In a culture where shame is passé, we must ask often: Who is watching the watchers?
http://www.truthdig.com/report/print...hame_20110902/
ballistics show Obama hisself shooted off this here gun, and then gave it to a to murder a pregant white lady
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