The most embarrasing moment in American history

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

What's ironic is that you think we hate Obama because he's some kind of liberal ideal that offends us "redneck conservatives" when in fact we hate him because he's ostensibly Bush 2.0, combining the worst of modern day liberal and conservative philosophy.

Yeah don't expect his brain to get that anytime soon ( at him saying he has food stamps like it's a good thing)

If Obama was actually the liberal president he said he'd be I wouldn't hate him so much.

[Koolaid_Man]

If I thought you guys were smart enough to understand what was really going on I'd engage in a more serious debate..

you guys are all about Billboards and Pla udes...you're just as silly as the tea party freaks and just as stupid as the blacks that thought their gas and mortgages would be free..there really is no difference between those folks and you guys...lol

[midnightpulp]

yet you offer no proof...

Deal with that

Extending Bush's War on Terror farce is all the proof I need that he's a Neo Con whoring himself out to the military industrial complex.

But he black, so Kool don't care 'bout his policies. He black, he shoot hoop, and we gon' get paid!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I thought Obama would end the War in Iraq and roll back Bush's tax cuts on the ultra rich. Silly me I guess.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

But he black, so Kool don't care 'bout his policies. He black, he shoot hoop, and we gon' get paid!

[midnightpulp]

If I thought you guys were smart enough to understand what was really going on I'd engage in a more serious debate..

you guys are all about Billboards and Pla udes...you're just as silly as the tea party freaks and just as stupid as the blacks that thought their gas and mortgages would be free..there really is no difference between those folks and you guys...lol

He can't enact any of his proposals into legislation because he's being handcuffed by a Republican controlled house and congress

[Koolaid_Man]

He can't enact any of his proposals into legislation because he's being handcuffed by a Republican controlled house and congress

Wrong...It's becase George Soros has him on lockdown...

[ALVAREZ6]

Yep. Just look at the morons in the video:

Of course most blacks would naturally vote for Obama because they share his skin color and believe that once he's in office, the welfare tap will be turned on full blast, showering them with free money and granting them a carte blanche access to a variety of social services. But the white people featured here enrage me far more. The two honky s in the video are a perfect example of your garden variety pseudo-intellectual lib hipster, who think voting for Obama is some kind of edgy, rebellious statement against a conservative hegemony, as well a celebration of their "tolerance" and "progressive ideals" that anyone over the age of 30 who makes a decent salary can't possibly understand.

And the frightening thing is they still swing from his nuts despite him basically being Bush 2.0.

What's the point of focusing on one side...do you believe there isn't just as great of a proportion of Republicans that are ing re ed?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

He can't enact any of his proposals into legislation because he's being handcuffed by a Republican controlled house and congress

even though he had a Democrat majority in both houses from 2008 to 2010 and still got on his knees to appease Republicans

[ALVAREZ6]

Like the USA steamrolled in 08?

I noticed this under your name.


Trying to justify the legitimacy of the Argentina gold medal.

We took the USA team's best shot.

lolwhut???

I'm not trying to justify the legitimacy of the Argentina gold.

[midnightpulp]

Wrong...It's becase George Soros has him on lockdown...

You know Soros is a progressive socialist, right? If he indeed had him on lockdown your welfare check would be ten times the amount it is now.

[midnightpulp]

What's the point of focusing on one side...do you believe there isn't just as great of a proportion of Republicans that are ing re ed?

Of course. If not more so. I can't stand Republicans, either.

This is essentially the philosophy of both political parties:

Democrats: Waste money on social programs that have never been shown to create opportunity or reduce long term unemployment.

Republicans: Waste money on "defense spending" that is supposedly used to "protect" the United States from foreign threats that have never been shown to really be a threat at all.

And both parties get a hard on from printing money and running deficits.

[Koolaid_Man]

Extending Bush's War on Terror farce is all the proof I need that he's a Neo Con whoring himself out to the military industrial complex.

But he black, so Kool don't care 'bout his policies. He black, he shoot hoop, and we gon' get paid!

yep that's all I need to know...he's black... and rocking dat Ice homie...

Listen you mean well but you're largely uneducated. You spend most of your time doing quick google searches to pump up your "pedigree"...

You've never spent a day in Africa or the Middle east around hardcore Muslims so I wouldn't expect you to understand how extension of wars to fight terrorism must go on in the short term. Bush's flaw was not the war on terrorism but the War in Iraq. You do realize that 911 happened right? Bin Laden hated Saddam and wanted him dead for the Kuwait invasion. So this was Bush's fatal flaw... he sold it to you gullibles but not Kool..I've been connected with Geo-Political issues for quite some time now.

The central front is really Saudi - Pakistan and then Afgahnistan but we cannot attack our friends the "Saudi's" or the Paki's...clearly the war must go on for some time in Afghan you can't just pull out with the level of instability in the region with close ties to the Paki's..Once the military commanders on the ground have confirmed to the Pres that the region is "ready" then you'll see change. If we pulled out now you're doing nothing but creating a vacuum in which the Taliban will rise again much like they did after the Russians left, in which Osama created Al-Queda...You can't beat terrorism militarily but you can create conditions in which it is harder for them to thrive.

Obama coming in and stopping the war immediately was never going to happen and if you thought that then you're actually one of the bleeding heart hate Bush at all costs liberals that wanted Obama to perform like Jesus Christ. He ended the Iraq war but there's still work in Afghanistan...all you ers that voted for him and expected miracles couldn't see the forest for the trees. You voted for him because deep inside you thought that the black man had no personal values and would come in and just do every ing thing that made your heart feel good.

You guys are selfish just like the tea party neanderthals and can't or don't understand that change doesn't come over night..Not on big issues...including gay rights issues that must be won not by Obama's pen but by the political process itself in order to protect the very thing your fighting for in the long term. The gays rights issue for example is one that will have to be won through a grass roots effort not legislation..Obama understands this but gays like you, Dok, and Chumpdumpster don't have a ing clue.

keep it coming and I'll keep my brilliance flowing

[midnightpulp]

I thought Obama would end the War in Iraq and roll back Bush's tax cuts on the ultra rich. Silly me I guess.

Me too.

As for the tax cuts, do you mean you'd be in favor of the ultra rich shouldering less of the taxes? Under the Bush tax cuts, they actually paid more in taxes than they have under previous administrations. The Bush tax cuts were a progressive's wet dream in reality, even though the Democrats tried to spin it like they were favoring the rich.

Now if Obama taxed the ultra rich less, that is something I would be in favor of. Yes, CEOs are s , corporations can be corrupt, but they are still binded by the profit incentive, and I'd rather them have the money than the government who can spend that money to their heart's desire without any accountability whatsoever. If a corporation (prior to the bailouts) spends money unwisely, they're in risk going out of business, while the government can just simply tax more or run deficits if they need capital.

[ALVAREZ6]

Of course. If not more so. I can't stand Republicans, either.

This is essentially the philosophy of both political parties:

Democrats: Waste money on social programs that have never been shown to create opportunity or reduce long term unemployment.

Republicans: Waste money on "defense spending" that is supposedly used to "protect" the United States from foreign threats that have never been shown to really be a threat at all.

And both parties get a hard on from printing money and running deficits.

OK, thank you.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Me too.

As for the tax cuts, do you mean you'd be in favor of the ultra rich shouldering less of the taxes? Under the Bush tax cuts, they actually paid more in taxes than they have under previous administrations. The Bush tax cuts were a progressive's wet dream in reality, even though the Democrats tried to spin it like they were favoring the rich.

Now if Obama taxed the ultra rich less, that is something I would be in favor of. Yes, CEOs are s , corporations can be corrupt, but they are still binded by the profit incentive, and I'd rather them have the money than the government who can spend that money to their heart's desire without any accountability whatsoever. If a corporation (prior to the bailouts) spends money unwisely, they're in risk going out of business, while the government can just simply tax more or run deficits if they need capital.

I'm gonna throw the challenge flag on Bush's tax cuts. Corporate taxes are as low as they've been in 50+ years, the fact is taxing corporations less does nothing other than make it so CEOs and the ultra-rich have more money sitting in their bank account. The extremely low capital gains and dividend tax in this country is a joke.

Right now, the government needs capital and has a huge debt to pay off, it's time to jack taxes up for corporations and get rid of the loopholes they use. Corporations are turning in record profits and all of the excess capital is going to the top, it's a in tea party myth that lower taxes are making it so the record profits are reaching the middle class.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

He ended the Iraq war

he did?

[Koolaid_Man]

I thought Obama would end the War in Iraq and roll back Bush's tax cuts on the ultra rich. Silly me I guess.

You're a poor lost soul...listen revenue increases is good but the money that he rolls back on the rich won't make that great a difference...what it will show is that they're serious about negotiating in good faith and make the sacrifice that everyone else is expected to make. Listen my family would pay higher taxes because "we" make over 250k / yr but it's not an issue for "us" ...

It's a matter of fairness but I don't think you understand this any way Dok. I'm dissapointed in you because you are college educated I assume and yet you make such silly simplistic statements about this key revenue issue. Obama is noble in that he won't risk keeping the recession or defaulting and going in a negative direction if it means caving in for the short term to Repubs. When the left is thinking he caved actually he's saving jobs from terrorists in congress. If he didn't give in now you ers wouldn't be able to pay your internet bill... Remember you must look beyond the trees to see the forest...Politics is volatile much like the stock market and you typically win battles in cycles right now he doesn't have the numbers...so he has to try and persuade when and where he can. Repubs will only listen when poor whites in their districts become affected by their reckless ideology.

Obama should have anticipated though back in Dec when he caved into repubs on the tax increase issue that the debt ceiling would be their next terror card to play..His team didn't pick up on that one and it bit him...But he's not going to be perfect he doesn't have to be...he just has to learn from his mistakes and play a steady hand of poker.

Keep it coming and I'll keep my brilliance flowing

[ElNono]

^^^ This is why you're still a broke ass, Kevin

[ALVAREZ6]

You guys are selfish just like the tea party neanderthals and can't or don't understand that change doesn't come over night..Not on big issues...including gay rights issues that must be won not by Obama's pen but by the political process itself in order to protect the very thing your fighting for in the long term. The gays rights issue for example is one that will have to be won through a grass roots effort not legislation..Obama understands this but gays like you, Dok, and Chumpdumpster don't have a ing clue.

The most intelligent thing I've read from you. It's just frustrating that this is the way the world is and there's nothing anyone can do about it, for the most part. The best man for the job is never going to be the nominated party representative, for either party, because the majority of each party's cons uents don't come remotely close to understanding what truly would be the best for the country, or even their own ideals. The two candidates in presidential elections need to cater to the mainstream to win, obviously. Changes on big issues innately require a long time to be successfully implemented.


This country's large issues are nowhere near being resolved because the majority of citizens are too stupid and/or lazy to realize what could help this country move forward.

[NRHector]

^^^ This is why you're still a broke ass, Kevin

[ElNono]

Barry's compromises amount to giving up to anything the Teapotties want... It's like when luva tried to "compromise" into being outed as a Naruto fan

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You're a poor lost soul...listen revenue increases is good but the money that he rolls back on the rich won't make that great a difference...what it will show is that they're serious about negotiating in good faith and make the sacrifice that everyone else is expected to make. Listen my family would pay higher taxes because "we" make over 250k / yr but it's not an issue for "us" ...

I said roll back as in get rid of Bush's tax cuts on the rich so families like mine and yours (even though I highly doubt your family makes 250k) have to pay more taxes we can afford.

[Koolaid_Man]

^^^ This is why you're still a broke ass, Kevin

My ing name isn't Kevin is Trayvonne Deshonte

[ElNono]

My ing name isn't Kevin is Trayvonne Deshonte

Sure, Kevin. How's Jr?