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    yeah, A&M followed the instructions for leaving that they were given. Don't really know what Baylor could base a claim on.

    it'd be really funny if the school that threatened to sue was actually UT....

    The instructions issued by the league office for withdrawing are irrelevant to Baylor's claim.

    Baylor would probably argue that because A&M left, it triggered the collapse of the conference, and therefore they suffered damages because they lost money from the TV contracts with Fox and ESPN. It's the SEC that would most likely get sued because Baylor would claim they tampered with the Big XII's contractual relationships. This is what I've heard.

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    Does anybody else find the whole Baylor thing ironic?

    This is the same school that threw Rice, Houston, SMU, and TCU under the bus just to get into the Big XII

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    Baylor isn't going to sue anybody, they just want to be bought off.

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    The instructions issued by the league office for withdrawing are irrelevant to Baylor's claim.

    Baylor would probably argue that because A&M left, it triggered the collapse of the conference, and therefore they suffered damages because they lost money from the TV contracts with Fox and ESPN. It's the SEC that would most likely get sued because Baylor would claim they tampered with the Big XII's contractual relationships. This is what I've heard.
    They would be relevant to Baylor's claim because the contract that A&M got out of was between A&M and the Big 12......not directly between A&M and Baylor.

    There has also been no indication that the current B12 TV money has been affected in any way by the departure of A&M, so I still don't see what Baylor will be basing a claim on.

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    Baylor isn't going to sue anybody, they just want to be bought off.
    I think the bigger picture is that they don't want to get left out in the cold

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    I think the bigger picture is that they don't want to get left out in the cold
    Certainly true, but they know it's inevitable so they're just looking to get what they can. Bigger cut of A&M's exit fee, agreements by A&M and/or SEC to have some non conference games, whatever else.

    There's no scenario where going through with a lawsuit works out to Baylor's advantage.

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    They would be relevant to Baylor's claim because the contract that A&M got out of was between A&M and the Big 12......not directly between A&M and Baylor.
    Not really, that's why the SEC is asking each school individually to waive its right to sue in addition to the league office. The league office has already waived that right reportedly, but not one or more individual schools (probably Baylor).

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    Not really, that's why the SEC is asking each school individually to waive its right to sue in addition to the league office. The league office has already waived that right reportedly, but not one or more individual schools (probably Baylor).
    Yeah, no school in their right mind is going to waive any right to sue.

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    The SEC also released the aforementioned letter, which was sent by Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe to SEC commissioner Mike Slive. "We both agreed," Beebe wrote, "it is in the best interests of each of our conferences and our member ins utions of higher education to waive any and all legal actions by either conference and its members resulting from admission of Texas A&M into the SEC, as long as such admission is confirmed publicly by September 8, 2011."

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1XHhnxj7T

    Beebe is the best in the business.

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    The SEC also released the aforementioned letter, which was sent by Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe to SEC commissioner Mike Slive. "We both agreed," Beebe wrote, "it is in the best interests of each of our conferences and our member ins utions of higher education to waive any and all legal actions by either conference and its members resulting from admission of Texas A&M into the SEC, as long as such admission is confirmed publicly by September 8, 2011."

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1XHhnxj7T

    Beebe is the best in the business.

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    Not really, that's why the SEC is asking each school individually to waive its right to sue in addition to the league office. The league office has already waived that right reportedly, but not one or more individual schools (probably Baylor).
    I'm not talking about Baylor waiving the right to sue.

    I'm talking about "if Baylor does decide to sue".

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    Yeah, no school in their right mind is going to waive any right to sue.
    You think? I would think this would be pretty much standard practice. It's not like A&M is the first school to ever leave a conference. Nor do I think the SEC is the first conference to ever want to protect themselves against getting sued by a new member's former conference mates.

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    It's not like A&M is the first school to ever leave a conference.
    or even the first to leave this conference

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    didn't the big east schools sue the acc when the u, bc, and the hokies took off? If so it didn't work cause there all i nthe acc not the big east.

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    didn't the big east schools sue the acc when the u, bc, and the hokies took off? If so it didn't work cause there all i nthe acc not the big east.
    Google tells me they did. I'd be willing to bet that lawsuit started a trend of conferences requiring the legal waivers as a condition for admission.

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    The SEC also released the aforementioned letter, which was sent by Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe to SEC commissioner Mike Slive. "We both agreed," Beebe wrote, "it is in the best interests of each of our conferences and our member ins utions of higher education to waive any and all legal actions by either conference and its members resulting from admission of Texas A&M into the SEC, as long as such admission is confirmed publicly by September 8, 2011."

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1XHhnxj7T

    Beebe is the best in the business.
    Pretty good grounds for A&M and/or the SEC to sue Baylor and the Big 12 if Baylor is able to wreck the deal.

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    Pretty good grounds for A&M and/or the SEC to sue Baylor and the Big 12 if Baylor is able to wreck the deal.
    Why? Beebe speaks for the conference, not Baylor individually. The conference has waived it's right to sue, but Baylor sees itself personally being damaged and has not yet (reportedly at least) waived its right. LOL at the SEC suing Baylor though.

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    Pretty good grounds for A&M and/or the SEC to sue Baylor and the Big 12 if Baylor is able to wreck the deal.
    I don't see it.

    The SEC is the one that is denying A&M, not baylor.

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    Why? Beebe speaks for the conference, not Baylor individually. The conference has waived it's right to sue, but Baylor sees itself personally being damaged and has not yet (reportedly at least) waived its right. LOL at the SEC suing Baylor though.
    I don't think anybody is going to get sued here. Baylor wants a pay off, not a legal battle. But for discussion sake, say Baylor does get the deal killed. A&M has then been personally damaged by Baylor and can sue them. A&M could also sue the Big 12 for misleading the SEC about the Big 12 conference's ability to speak for the conference as a whole.

    You already said if Baylor sues anyone they'd sue the SEC, so why do you think it's LOL that the SEC would sue Baylor if Baylor sues them?

    I don't see it.

    The SEC is the one that is denying A&M, not baylor.
    The SEC isn't denying A&M. They accepted A&M under the belief that all the big 12 schools had agreed to waive their rights to sue.

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    I agree that Baylor will probably not sue. Their dean is one of the best lawyers of the last 30 years imho. Love him or hate him.

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    I don't see it.

    The SEC is the one that is denying A&M, not baylor.
    the SEC isn't denying A&M. Actually them and the Presidents of the schools in the SEC going public with all this information about unanimous vote and Baylor threatening litigation is their way of backing A&M up in this right now. Putting pressure on Baylor through the media and sorts. If Baylor doesn't budge on this stance then the SEC will still take A&M but it would definitely save a headache by seeing if it can be resolved without litigation first.

    Baylor is ing pathetic, the conference is already gone and A&M is not going to stay. They are just ruining relationships and their chance at staying relevant once the big12 dissolves at this point. Texas and 0U are not happy with them either for doing this.

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    i am glad this has revived this forum tbh

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    Texas and 0U are not happy with them either for doing this.
    You can add Mizzou, Okie state Tech and Kansas to that list. Maybe even Kansas State. Everyone knows the big 12 is about to die and nobody wants to set a precedent of Baylor being able to take options away from them.

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    I don't think anybody is going to get sued here. Baylor wants a pay off, not a legal battle. But for discussion sake, say Baylor does get the deal killed. A&M has then been personally damaged by Baylor and can sue them. A&M could also sue the Big 12 for misleading the SEC about the Big 12 conference's ability to speak for the conference as a whole.

    You already said if Baylor sues anyone they'd sue the SEC, so why do you think it's LOL that the SEC would sue Baylor if Baylor sues them?



    The SEC isn't denying A&M. They accepted A&M under the belief that all the big 12 schools had agreed to waive their rights to sue.
    The only ones saying the SEC can't go ahead and invite A&M is the SEC.

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