That is pure speculation.
Of course, as is just about everything at this point, but it's highly logical.
Knowing that Baylor is infact the one school keeping this from happening is not speculation. that is fact.
Saying that its all one big conspiracy that OU and UT are behind is not.
I'm saying there's a chance.
Agreed but at this point, I wouldn't blame Baylor for being petty.Pretty petty if that is the case.
From Shaggy.
Rec'd about 10 minutes ago. Confirms much of the same info tweeted by Billy Liucci.
"Big XII conference call just ended. 3 teams suing Texas A&M and per SEC statement, SEC will not accept A&M until litigation/contractual hinderances are removed. Suits will not be cleared in time for SEC acceptance deadline so they would not be approved to exit the Big XII, like Beebe said in his follow up letter to Slive..."
HERE"S THE GREAT PART:
At some point, it was brought up that 'so, A&M won't be able to play in the SEC next season at all then, I guess.' Beebe chimed in (basically), 'Well they won't be playing here either.'"
So, the litigation threat wasn't necessarily directed at the SEC, but just issues over A&M's departure, like you would normally have, to negotiate an exit settlement. I tend to believe this, since the SEC statement read:
Dr. Bernie Machen: "After receiving unanimous written assurance from the Big 12 on September 2 that the Southeastern Conference was free to accept Texas A&M to join as a new member, the presidents and chancellors of the SEC met last night with the intention of accepting the application of Texas A&M to be the newest member of the SEC. We were notified yesterday afternoon that at least one Big 12 ins ution had withdrawn its previous consent and was considering legal action. The SEC has stated that to consider an ins ution for membership, there must be no contractual hindrances to its departure. The SEC voted unanimously to accept Texas A&M University as a member upon receiving acceptable reconfirmation that the Big 12 and its members have reaffirmed the letter dated September 2, 2011."
SO, WHAT'S FUNNY TO ME, IS THAT THE DEADLINE FOR ALLOWING DEPARTURE GIVEN BY BEEBE GUARANTEED THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN. There would be no way to negotiate the exit penalties, etc in that short timeframe, especially since aggy is broke as . I guess from a negotiation standpoint, Beebe could have done this to disallow aggy time to squabble over mere dollars, since time is of the essence.
I eagerly await the filing and serving of Plaintiff's pe ions on agroid.
What happened to the for sure certainty and optimism by everyone that we are very easy to replace. Threatening litigation against us gives the conference more of a chance to survive then letting us go quietly, saving face, and working diligently to help Texas and OU and the commissioner to keep the current conference together by adding 1 program?
That's obviously not what I'm saying is speculation. The motives of Texas, OU, and Baylor are speculation.
yay you got it!
No Child Left Behind in action.
Now this is just getting re ed again. Everyone speculating and making up now. I guess well just have to wait again and see.
god this stuff is so good.....
You understand we already informed the big12 we are leaving the conference right. You understand OU hasn't right? Why would you be working on us when they are having the same doubts.
Not buying this for a couple of reasons.Fact: Beebe sends a letter saying no lawsuits.
Fact: OU President makes waves by saying OU is looking.
Implication: if OU leaves, Big 12 dissolves.
Then the small schools, who may not have a soft landing, start panicing (Baylor, K State, ISU).
OU motivates the smaller schools to take the heat by sticking their necks out and blocking the A&M move, but OU does not get the blame. Baylor does.
OU does the heavy lifting, takes the indirect blame, while UT is deemed innocent of any meddling. Very clever. Because if UT had threatened to leave causing the small schools to scurry, it would be easy to cry foul. With OU threatening, everyone buys it as legit.
All the while OU and UT, hand in hand, getting what they want.
Very clever indeed. Very clever.
First, I don't think OU and Texas are afraid to stand up to A&M and wouldn't see a need to concoct this scheme involving Baylor.
Second, I don't think OU and Texas want to set a precedent where lawsuit threats from Baylor could hinder what they want to do.
Third, OU going public with thoughts of bolting to the pac 12 is guaranteed to scare off quality expansion targets.
To think that Beebe might have outsmarted someone....
I don't have the words.
The Big 12 could add BYU and according to reports quoting TV execs, there would be no issues keeping the TV deals as is.
What does Baylor ing with A&M have to do with adding BYU?
...unless you believe that A&M can still be a member of the Big 12....
Beebe outsmarted someone? The guy is a complete fraud. Sending a letter to the SEC saying all issues involving litigation have been handled and everyone has agreed not too take action. Only to go back on his words once again. How this guy has a job is beyond me. The SEC will take A&M and will welcome a lawsuit if it is completely necessary and use his letter for one. There is no case here.
Do you not understand what you just said about Baylor having nothing to lose?
OH, it's just keeps getting better.
USA Today - Breaking News: Iowa State has not waived legal rights regarding Texas A&M's SEC move
Iowa State officials are retaining their legal rights in the growing muddle surrounding Texas A&M's decision to join the Southeastern Conference.
A school spokesman said Iowa State has not waived its legal rights regarding Texas A&M's move to the SEC.
John McCarroll, an Iowa State spokesman, said Wednesday that the school has not waived its rights to sue either the SEC or Texas A&M for the involvement in that university's decision to leave the Big 12 Conference.
"There has been no waiver of any legal rights," said McCarroll, speaking for school president Gregory Geoffroy.
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...38m-move-sec/1
I could see Russell Crowe playing crazy genius Beebe in the movie.
Yeah, if it was certain the big12 would crumble if A&M left. According to everyone during this whole process the conference would be just fine without us......
So it is certain the crumble if we leave? Last week we were a simple piece of the puzzle who noone cared about. So we hold the keys to the conference? Not texas?
predictable. iowa state sees baylor getting some traction and they want a cut too.
i wonder who is next
surely K St and maybe Kansas as well....
SEC will now welcome the lawsuit since Iowa State and others are joining the party, imo
k-state, maybe kansas, but it would stop there.
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