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I had to make sure I got it from a credible newsource. They sell Obama merchandise at the NBC store so this has to be true...
Next time you hear filibuster, that's what probably they're supposed to pass.
I had to make sure I got it from a credible newsource. They sell Obama merchandise at the NBC store so this has to be true...
The "plan" as presented? Zero percent. He boldfaced claimed that his "plan" would be "100% paid for" when all he will do is give the "supercommittee" some "suggestions" next week. Even the most partisan intellectual lightweights in here should be able to agree that is total bull .
I think this is a really good point. For me, there's a twofold problem: 1) how do you educate the public and 2) how does that education translate to actual policy?
That's why, in the meantime, you gotta play political games to some extent - which means - you have to consider a policy's viability vis-a-vis the political climate.
We'll see if the GOP has fully transformed in the WC, Crookskanks and Darrin party.
That was an AP article, guys.
Wouldn't surprise me, but I'll wait for the details that he article itself says will be sent next week. On the other hand, it's good to see a President that at least brings to the table the topic of paying for the proposed programs.
Tbh, I'm a Reagan conservative...which is a liberal by the talk radio conservatives standards.
For your first sentence, me too. I mean this was only a speech. Rhetoric, if you will, until it's on paper and looked over
For your second sentence, I'd think any concerned President would do that in a time like this. Now whether it's done in vain or not is a completely different question. Just saying "pass this now" and talking at a louder volume than usual doesn't make him any more intelligent or proactive.
No president does a single thing in public that isn't built around politics. Not sure why there's some shock at that.
if he can not why in the did he give a speech on it then
Take it to your VRWC rant-thread..it's Scott's OP, idiot.
Scott, nor anybody else here, has the balls to list the net positives for dubya's reign. so GFY
I certainly stated as much in my initial post. Less talk, more action. Ultimately though, other than the veto, it's not up to Barry to get this done and on his desk to sign. So let's see what Congress does.
As far as "any concerned President would do that in a time like this", well, we've had a lot of programs adding billions in obligations before and the "who's going to pay for this" never entered the picture. I don't know that "now" is really different than "then", tbh. IMO, I hope the trends continue and at least we get some sort of explanation on how this is going to get paid.
As much as you despise the tea party and republicans you should give credit where credit is due. They are demanding at least an attempt at fiscal responsibility.
I would love to give the GOP credit, except that it's just lip service much like the Dems. When they ran this they kept on piling up the debt, even when handed a balanced budget. And the thought of explaining how we're going to pay for, ie, Medicare Part D never crossed their minds, it seems.
I gave the GOP Congress during the Clinton era all the credit. They worked with the President towards that goal and got done. The current crop is a shame to the nation. The whole "I want the President to fail" is the epitome of not giving a about you, me or the country. That WC or the resident team players say it is not surprising, but when a Congressman does, you can't tell me there's nothing wrong there.
As far as the Tea Party, just like any other extremist group, you have to buy the whole package, and I just disagree with the majority of what they're selling. I might agree with a thing or two in their platform, but from the Tea Potty's perspective I'm a de able centrist and part of the problem. Just the norm with extremists.
So, nothing extreme about "pass this bill" or, basically, else?
Else meaning, I'll, basically, tattle on you...
you don't know why "now" is any different??? That's funny.
I get it. You guys say the 2009 recovery act was the only thing that changed in the economy...In June of this year, Recovery Act funding was still supporting up to 2.9 million jobs. This chart tracks the change in employment that occurred following the passage of the Recovery Act:
Well, it seems to me the numbers on the graph were ready to rise already. they were already bouncing on the floor for 3 months before the recovery act!
"I ask Congress to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy."
Who said that?
I don't find extreme at all urging Congress to do what people voted them to do.
No, I don't. I thought deficit spending was deficit spending. Care to explain?
That's when the bailout passed, and banks stopped going bankrupt. Recession ensued.
"They are demanding at least an attempt at fiscal responsibility."
hypocritical BS. Ryan's plan was shown to increase the deficit.
St Ronnie and dubya both doubled or tripled the debt, where was the fiscal discipline then?
And we all see that the tea baggers and Repugs want fiscal discipline applied only to the lower 95% or 98%, not to UCA, not to the wealthy, for which they want zero UCA income taxes and zero capital gains taxes.
LOL...
Cutting social security and medicare in half (4.2% to 2.1% and 1.45% to 0.725%) saving the typical; American family $1500 means the "typical family" makes $53100.35 a year!
I'm sorry, but how much does it help the people who really need the help? Since liberals don't believe in "trickle down economics," how does it help?
We need to bring jobs back to America. That's our problem. New jobs aren't coming because they are in Asia and elsewhere. Sure, McDonald's will be hiring as more people fix their budgets and have more extra cash... Why can't congress fix it's budget, and why does the president want to spend so much more than we can afford?
I can only conclude the democrats want to bankrupt this country.
Yep, it's paid for....
On the backs of our progeny. Soon it will be too heavy, and we will collapse as a nation.
The USSA
United Socialistic States of America.
If the Repugs GAS about fiscal discpline
they wouldn't start two wars AND cut taxes
they wouldn't start Medicare Part D with no funding
etc, etc, etc,
It's not just that though. Democrats, liberals, independants, etc... can give all the credit in the world to the GOP and the tea-party. But why should any party that acts like a terrorist and threaten to burn the whole house (see the debt ceiling) be given any credit other than a big you?
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