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    Are you making a claim, or just guessing?
    Again, I asked you a question.

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    I asked a very simple question. You couldn't answer it.
    You couldn't either. Happens all the time here.

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    You couldn't either. Happens all the time here.
    Again, you made a claim and couldn't really back it up.

    Happens all the time here.

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    Again, I asked you a question.
    I answered you, you ignored mine.

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    Again, you made a claim and couldn't really back it up.

    Happens all the time here.
    All I claimed was that Turkey and Egypt are formally secular regimes. You dispute that?

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    You couldn't either. Happens all the time here.
    I asked the question because I wanted to know the answer. You acted like you knew.

    You didn't.

    I apologize for thinking you might.

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    Turkey and Egypt don't have secular governments? That's news to me.

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    All I claimed was that Turkey and Egypt are formally secular regimes. You dispute that?
    You said they were exceptions in that they didn't mainly base their legislation on sharia law. Now, it's certainly a matter of degree, but I do believe that secular governments can and do base much of their legislation on religious law and tradition.

    I asked you if their governments weren't based largely on sharia law, upon what were they based?

    English common law?

    Napoleonic code?

    I don't think I'm being unreasonable in asking.

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    Turkey and Egypt don't have secular governments? That's news to me.
    Straw is not your best medium.

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    You said they were exceptions in that they didn't mainly base their legislation on sharia law.
    That's your interpolation, not what I said.
    Now, it's certainly a matter of degree, but I do believe that secular governments can and do base much of their legislation on religious law and tradition.
    Form v content, as previously mentioned. The difference b/w secular and theocratic regimes is not trivial.

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    Straw is not your best medium.
    Whereas sophism suits you right down to the ground.

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    Libya is in danger of falling into the hands of Islamic extremists if a stable government is not rapidly established, Nato’s secretary-general warned last night.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ato-warns.html
    I recall saying it would happen, because that's who the rebels are.

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    Straw is not your best medium.
    Oh, and thanks for making the thread all about me.

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    Oh, and thanks for making the thread all about me.
    No....

    He makes it about himself by finding any silly reason to confront someone.

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    That's your interpolation, not what I said.


    You said they were exceptions to Muslim countries that base their legislation on sharia law.

    Then you promptly said nothing at all.

    Thanks again.

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    No....

    He makes it about himself by finding any silly reason to confront someone.
    It was in no way a confrontation.

    People get really defensive around here when questioned. Especially when they don't know the answers.

    Happens all the time.

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    I could care less whether the new regime is sharia based or not. I posted it more to counter the geniuses in this forum who were suggesting the conflict was over and the the humanitarian problems, solved. They are not, nor is the civil war over.
    Like who?

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    You said they were exceptions to Muslim countries that base their legislation on sharia law.

    Then you promptly said nothing at all.
    Actually, I glossed what i meant by the comment. It turns on what "based on" means. I took that to mean "cons utional law" not "common law". Your refusal to hear or accept my reasonable gloss is asinine.

    Thanks.

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    Last edited by Winehole23; 09-14-2011 at 12:22 PM.

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    And I have the better of him here:

    http://www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/tu00000_.html

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    So then, "all" Islamic countries do not embrace Islam as a source of common law, as ChumpDumper insinuated.

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    btw, nice derail.

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    Actually, I glossed what i meant by the comment. It turns on what "based on" means. I took that to mean "cons utional law" not "common law". Your refusal to hear or accept my reasonable gloss is asinine.

    Thanks.
    So then, "all" Islamic countries do not embrace Islam as a source of common law, as ChumpDumper insinuated.
    Your screen name is missing an h.

    And I really wasn't talking about cons utional law.

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    Not contextually clear, but inferred. Your own gloss is just your gloss. Everyone else has his/her side. Refusing to hear all others is childish.

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