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The pursuit of happiness is a fool's game. The reason why we live is to be free and to love. That is it. Not to be loved, not to be successful, to be rich, etc...
To be free and to love.
Rich people may have caught their goal...but ask them if they also discovered that attaining this goal gave them happiness. You may be surprised by what you hear. THAT might be why they are turning to Zen or to some other teachings...
because they are STILL searching....
Again...you were programmed to label me as a burger flipper (not that there is anything wrong with flipping burgers) ...because you can only see through your clouded perception...and the very first thing you can do is apply labels to everything to keep your brain on auto-pilot....
It is harder to actually wake up and empty your brain and see with new eyes...THAT takes work!
How old are you?
People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness. Just because they're not on your road doesn't mean they've gotten lost.
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Geezer here... mid 40's...heading downhill fast!
Didn't mean to imply it was MY road...I was programmed & conditioned just like everyone else...in my 30's...I attained what I had been told was "success" and had enough $ to not have to work anymore...provided I was smart...not rich but I would be ok ...
What happened next opened my eyes...
I found myself not having to report to a job to pay my bills...I just had to call my financial advisor and tell him to wire me 3 or 4 or 10k...and I would just pay my and blow the rest...
I enjoyed it for awhile...
Eventually...there was no more pleasure in buying toys....I had played for awhile and had many adventures...(Funny how attractive women seemed to be interested all of a sudden-but that is another story) but I began to grow unhappy, depressed even...
Soon after...my body began breaking down...funny how when you HAVE to work to pay bills...your body never breaks down...because you CAN'T AFFORD IT!!!
...BUT when you don't have to work...there is time for your body to catch it's breath and it is almost like it says to you;
"you have neglected me long enough...now I will put you in the hospital and force you to address my needs!"
This depression and breaking down was due to me coming to grips with this simple fact;
Attaining or reaching your goals or arriving at success do not mean that you are automatically happy--it is actually the opposite. All your life you were told that this, that & the other thing were going to make you happy...and now I had it...and I was miserable.
What will you do when you have everything you wanted? Well depending on your conditioning...you will either...
A) try to get BIGGER things...to satisfy your BIGGER cravings...
or
B) break down and find yourself bewildered that you were lied to your whole life and that all your hard work did not make you happy and your dreams fulfilled left you lost and still searching for meaning...
So I broke down...died...etc....
Had to find out a lot of painful and go through the pains of ...but it was the best thing that ever happened to me...
Sometimes I just want to warn others but I have found that no-one wants to hear it or believe it ...and I have found that people get very defensive and cannot even fathom that they could be wrong...or that they were taught wrong...it is painful to look at yourself and be honest...it is easier to just call a person crazy...
My SO decided to go into nursing school and she makes real good money and has great hours.
market is stacked with these clowns atm, only the brightest who end up with graduate jobs at the big banks and firms end up earning that pay figure after a few years under their belt...the underachievers end up doing 30-40k jobs which are entry level jobs with no career progressing....still better then nothing.
cpa/cfa costs jack to do do compared to a stupid bachelors which could make you broke ass with debt over ur head...
most those entry level jobs in finance/accounting like data entry, accts receivable and payable, reporting and will soon be outsourced to cheaper labour countries...its only the consulting that be valuable...fck it.
blue collar workers as in tradesman, now thats where the money is at these days...
She is working very hard...
wifey went through that and I saw firsthand what an awesome hard worker she is...
the thing is - she didn't even HAVE to do it...she just drove herself to do it even though she didn't have to...
gotta say...I am a big admirer of all of you that complete this and get your degrees...it takes a lot of work and dedication.
She loves it.
Says who?
Ask them if they would give up their riches to be your kind of "happy", which basically equates to a apathetic dissociation with society.
Rich people may have caught their goal...but ask them if they also discovered that attaining this goal gave them happiness. You may be surprised by what you hear. THAT might be why they are turning to Zen or to some other teachings...
because they are STILL searching....
Aren't you a prison guard? Do you do that for fun?
I wasn't labeling you. I was saying "in general".Again...you were programmed to label me as a burger flipper (not that there is anything wrong with flipping burgers) ...because you can only see through your clouded perception...and the very first thing you can do is apply labels to everything to keep your brain on auto-pilot....
Who's brain is really on autopilot, mine for critical thinking or yours for regurgitating something you read in a book or heard in a seminar?
Some don't have to work as hard to empty their brains.
It is harder to actually wake up and empty your brain and see with new eyes...THAT takes work!
Cream of the crop people normally are contracting and consulting, not punching a time clock.
Some figured out sooner...some later...some lived and died without ever knowing they were brainwashed...
I don't make serious money. Just a comfortable 5 figures that peaks into 6 figures during some years.
There are a whole lot of wannabe philosophers of life on Spurstalk.
I think in many cases, betting more education is just a race to the bottom. You either have what it takes early on in a field, or you don't. If after so much education, you still need educated...
Sorry, I have zero days of college. My high school had what they called a "skill center" which most my electives were used for. I went into the military giving me a AA equivalent in Communications Electronics. Worked various automation equipment jobs, one as an Engineering Technician, Landed a great job working somewhat like the fabled "Maytag Repairman." Nice and slow, but you have to be top notch when breaks.
Says the old man who never got a higher education.
I get by with a little help from my friends.
And some don't know how to use quote tags.
Honestly, you don't need to come to some convenient epiphany just because you fell short of your own expectations in life. It is what it is. Don't make it into what it's not.
We are all brain washed in some capacity. Some are brain washed to think it is about possessions, some about education, some about community service, some to eat healthy, etc. My cousin has no degree but took some electrical courses and started with a uncion electrician and years later he got his electrician license and makes real good money.
Your cousin works with unicorns?
that sounds like true happienss
Working with unicorns in a rainbow valley.
But not if you have to chase the unicorns. You realize it's not worth it.
You need to deprogram yourself. If you don't chase unicorns, you can achieve total unicorns.
Union. My other primo is a plumber and get $75 just to show up and he does very well.
He shows up very well or he makes a lot of money?
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