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no need to get emotional. my point is main issue the GOP has is they have freaks for candidates. Had they serious candidates their chances would be way better.
but as of right now, your chances are slim, slim
Well . You have it all figured out right down to the decimal point. Why even have an election then?
BTW asshole, I never said Obama couldn't be re-elected.
no need to get emotional. my point is main issue the GOP has is they have freaks for candidates. Had they serious candidates their chances would be way better.
but as of right now, your chances are slim, slim
btw out of all the candidates including Obama I like Romney best. He'd make a great president. But I'm realistic he's gonna have a hard time even winning the GOP nomination. It's the Kerry syndrome.
yes.
I will hold my nose and vote for Obama for the 2nd term, because it means keeping tea party anti-science nutballs that much farther away from one of the branches of government.
I would not mind voting for a moderate Republican, but those are in very short supply and their numbers are dwindling daily, being thrown under Sarah Palin's bus by their fellows.
The shift to the right, with the stark raving mad wing of the GOP having staged a coup of that party have made me into a confirmed Democrat.
It's what happens with the economy over the next year that's going to decide the election. Things get better, Obama's safe. Things get worse, Obama's out. Status quo probably favors the republican.
Pretty much sums up my thoughts.
As a Democrat though, I am rooting for Perry or Bachmann. Give the tea party what it wants.
Dmocrats for Perry 2012!
Where do I sign up?
Bachmann is dead, she just doesn't realize it yet.
It's a two horse race with Perry and Romney. With the Boutons style media attack dogs in a frenzy over Perry, that gives Romney a slight edge. Republicans will rally around whoever wins the primary and go to the polls in record numbers.
economy is really not that important in election tbh. I will make a thread explaining this...
..Poll: Obama disapproval soars to 54 percent in Va
By BOB LEWIS - AP Political Writer | AP – 3 hrs
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — President Barack Obama's disapproval rating has soared to 54 percent in Virginia, a battleground state the Democrat took from the Republicans to win the White House in 2008 and will likely need to carry next year to win re-election, a new poll released Thursday shows.
The Quinnipiac University Poll, based on telephone interviews with 1,368 registered voters from Sept. 7-12, found that only 40 percent approved of the president's performance, down from 48 percent in the same survey in June. Six percent were undecided. The survey's margin of sampling error was plus or minus 2.7 percentage points.
The results mirror other polls that show a continuing slide in the president's popularity in a slow, troubled economy.
In the Virginia survey, a majority — 51 percent — said they did not think Obama deserves to be re-elected, compared to 41 percent who would re-elect him. Eight percent didn't know or wouldn't say.
Most troubling for Obama is his poor performance among independents, many of whom supported him three years ago. Sixty-three percent of unaligned voters disapproved of the way Obama is handling his duties while only 29 percent approved.
Texas Gov. Rick Perry shot to the front of a 10-candidate Republican field among respondents who identified themselves as Republicans or Republican-leaning voters. Twenty-nine percent listed Perry as their top choice, and 19 percent said former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was their favorite. No other candidate was in double digits.
When the Republicans were asked if their primary came down to a choice between Perry and Romney, 43 percent chose Perry and 36 percent chose Romney.
In hypothetical matchups against Obama put before all of those surveyed, Perry and Romney were in statistical dead heats with the president. In a pairing against Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachman, Obama was favored 48 percent to 37 percent. Against Sarah Palin, who has not declared her candidacy, 50 percent chose Obama to 35 percent for the former Alaska governor and John McCain's 2008 vice presidential running mate.
The poll is released as candidates already begin targeting Virginia voters. Obama kicked off his nationwide tour aimed at pressuring Congress to adopt his jobs bill in Richmond on Friday. Perry delivered speeches Wednesday at a convocation at Liberty University in Lynchburg and a sold-out GOP fundraiser in Richmond.
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You 20 percenters just keep telling yourself Obama is gonna win - I guess that's what makes life living.
memo to skanks... it's September 2011....Poll: Obama disapproval soars to 54 percent in Va
By BOB LEWIS - AP Political Writer | AP – 3 hrs
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — President Barack Obama's disapproval rating has soared to 54 percent in Virginia, a battleground state the Democrat took from the Republicans to win the White House in 2008 and will likely need to carry next year to win re-election, a new poll released Thursday shows.
The Quinnipiac University Poll, based on telephone interviews with 1,368 registered voters from Sept. 7-12, found that only 40 percent approved of the president's performance, down from 48 percent in the same survey in June. Six percent were undecided. The survey's margin of sampling error was plus or minus 2.7 percentage points.
The results mirror other polls that show a continuing slide in the president's popularity in a slow, troubled economy.
In the Virginia survey, a majority — 51 percent — said they did not think Obama deserves to be re-elected, compared to 41 percent who would re-elect him. Eight percent didn't know or wouldn't say.
Most troubling for Obama is his poor performance among independents, many of whom supported him three years ago. Sixty-three percent of unaligned voters disapproved of the way Obama is handling his duties while only 29 percent approved.
Texas Gov. Rick Perry shot to the front of a 10-candidate Republican field among respondents who identified themselves as Republicans or Republican-leaning voters. Twenty-nine percent listed Perry as their top choice, and 19 percent said former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was their favorite. No other candidate was in double digits.
When the Republicans were asked if their primary came down to a choice between Perry and Romney, 43 percent chose Perry and 36 percent chose Romney.
In hypothetical matchups against Obama put before all of those surveyed, Perry and Romney were in statistical dead heats with the president. In a pairing against Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachman, Obama was favored 48 percent to 37 percent. Against Sarah Palin, who has not declared her candidacy, 50 percent chose Obama to 35 percent for the former Alaska governor and John McCain's 2008 vice presidential running mate.
The poll is released as candidates already begin targeting Virginia voters. Obama kicked off his nationwide tour aimed at pressuring Congress to adopt his jobs bill in Richmond on Friday. Perry delivered speeches Wednesday at a convocation at Liberty University in Lynchburg and a sold-out GOP fundraiser in Richmond.
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You 20 percenters just keep telling yourself Obama is gonna win - I guess that's what makes life living.
sincerely,
reality
I look forward to reading it, because on the surface this sounds like a pretty ridiculous statement.
I certainly grant you that 4/5ths of the country is going to just wave their red and blue pom-poms and vote for whomever has the appropriate letter behind their name, but I'm having a hard time seeing what the middle 20% who will ultimately decide this election could find more important than the economy. There's some pretty high unemployment rates in some pretty key swing states.
This might be the 1st time I'll be able to vote, and I still don't know who I would vote for.
It's right vs extreme right. The lack of options is not very appealing, tbh.
I guess I gotta see how much the GOP candidate tilts towards the middle before the election.
It stinks, actually.
Pffffffff. Give me a break. Isn't that how Obama got in?? Is the economy better now? I think it's anybody's game. Too bad I don't really care for any of them.
Exactly. I was surprised how she went after Perry about the hpv vaccine, but she screwed herself when she made the claim that the vaccine caused someone's child to have mental re ation the day after. Plus, does she ever really answer any question???
ing nailed it for me.
Besides the voting for Obama part. I will probably just write a name in.
The GOP wears its proud ignorance and religion on its sleeve. What disgusts me is that this strategy actually plays for a large portion of the population. I honestly thought we as a country would be beyond this sort of by now. That we are not is just another indictment on the long list of defunct government structure and media darling candidates with no substance or conviction, shilling the government to the highest bidder for the sole purpose of re-election.
This country's government is an example of exactly how to do democracy completely wrong.
Especially in a republic.
Yet ours has been around for longer than any other democracy - and up until just recently, we were the lone superpower in the world and the greatest country. An if the USA is so bad, why are millions of people from all over the world still trying to come here?
The tea party had its own debate last weekend. Neither of the candidates you list seemed to be particularly favored by that crowd.
I think you have bought into the media/conventional wisdom representation of what a typical "Tea Party" member is; and THAT appears to be very similar to the old "Moral Majority" stereotype (who had hijacked the Republican party before).
I have some strong tea party leanings (whatever those might be), and I would vote for neither Perry nor Bachmann. I wouldn't even vote form them over Obama as a "lesser of two evils" choice. Perry is Al Gore, when Gore was a politician. Finger in the wind opportunist. Also, is the most obvious and blatant corporatist we could possibly elect. Bachmann simply isn't very intelligent. Obama coupled with a Republican Congress is a better choice, IMO.
Before the last Presidential election I changed my registration from "Republican" to "Independent". When McCain pulled the run to Washington, and vote for TARP B.S. I pulled all support, and my vote, from him. I will probably re-register as a Republican so I can have a say in the Primary - but if the field doesn't change, there is not a single politician in the race right now (who has a chance at the nomination) that I can support.
link? from my experience I hear less and less ppl are trying to come here. Except for mexicans but that is because they are having a civil war in their country.
I've gone with the self-imposed political exile to Ron Paul's island.
Remember when Yoni didn't think Obama would win? How did that one go for you, Yoni?
I'd say this actually doesn't bode well for Republican nominees at this point. For them to not be able to have a lead in these kinds of polls at this stage, with the economy in its current state, should be a little troubling. Very reminiscent of these kinds of polls that were taking in 2005, when Bush had an approval rating in the high 30, low 40 %s.
Thats exactly the point I just made in the other thread. I think the election is about as close to a toss up as it ever will be at this point but I don't think Obama really has anymore of an uphill battle than any other candidate. When you consider just how poor the economy has been and all the bad press Obama has recieved (outside of Bin Laden when was the last time you heard a story where Obama was viewed positively?) that it is still a toss up says a lot, IMO.
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