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    None of the principal issues we've been discussing here were on the ballot. But even if they were, are you suggesting that everyone that voted against President Obama was being unreasonable?
    Now we're getting to what I was pointing out: Popularity and reasonableness are not connected at all. Not sure why you kept bringing popularity as a validation of reasonableness. However, if your contention is that they're connected, then you answered your own question above.

    But now that we agree that they're not connected at all, you're still far from reasonable yoni.

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    Now we're getting to what I was pointing out: Popularity and reasonableness are not connected at all. Not sure why you kept bringing popularity as a validation of reasonableness.

    But now that we agree that they're not connected at all, you're still far from reasonable yoni.
    I also think you're confusing unreasonable positions with unreasonable people. I can think you're an unreasonable person without thinking your position is unreasonable and, vice versa.

    This is a common practice in this forum. We live in a tiny universe of and, just as has happened in this thread, people -- at some point -- begin attacking the poster instead of challenging the idea or position being asserted.

    So, I ask the question, are there any reasonable people in the world that disagree with your worldview of any of the issues discussed here?

    Is it reasonable to believe President Bush did not lie in his State of the Union Address?

    It is reasonable to believe any number of the positions I've taken here are reasonable while still believing I'm an unreasonable person?

    If not, I would assert you're being unreasonable. Because, I think there are plenty of people on the left that are both reasonable and wrong on any number of positions over which we disagree.

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    I also think you're confusing unreasonable position with unreasonable people. I can think you're an unreasonable person without thinking your position is unreasonable and, vice versa.
    No, I'm not confused at all.

    You're far from reasonable. You're simply a cheerleader for a team. As there are cheerleaders for the other team. You're no different.

    Neither of which can win an election on their own, BTW.

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    And there's plenty of people I disagree with here on a number of topics that I find quite reasonable. Manny, RandomGuy, vy65, winehole... probably more.

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    No, I'm not confused at all.

    You're far from reasonable. You're simply a cheerleader for a team. As there are cheerleaders for the other team. You're no different.

    Neither of which can win an election on their own, BTW.
    Fine, so you believe I'm unreasonable. I can live with that.

    My question to you is, are there any reasonable people who share my view on the issues, discussed in this thread, that you view as reasonable?

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    The doctor is the last person I'd call if I had an erection for four hours. Just sayin'.
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    And there's plenty of people I disagree with here on a number of topics that I find quite reasonable. Manny, RandomGuy, vy65, winehole... probably more.
    So, it appears to be more of a reasonableness standard based on forum personality. It doesn't surprise me this list contains posters that also, probably, find me unreasonable.

    Is there anyone, with which you disagree over the vast majority of my positions about President Bush, you would characterize as reasonable?

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    like climate gate, the Repug/Fox outrage over solyndra is completely faked.

    Who sent the goons to grab all the solyndra stuff? Repugs?
    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...6&postcount=15

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    So, it appears to be more of a reasonableness standard based on forum personality.
    Not at all. It has everything to do with being able to back up the assertions, which in turn goes into credibility.

    Which is exactly why you are very far from reasonable.

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    Fine, so you believe I'm unreasonable. I can live with that.
    Okay

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    Not at all. It has everything to do with being able to back up the assertions, which in turn goes into credibility.

    Which is exactly why you are very far from reasonable.
    Name a position I've taken, in favor of President Bush, that I haven't supported.

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    It's unreasonable to burn up two pages arguing about who is reasonable.

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    Name a position I've taken, in favor of President Bush, that I haven't supported.
    Too many. Torture, illegal spying, going to war in Iraq, translating the do ents just to name a few.

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    It's unreasonable to burn up two pages arguing about who is reasonable.
    Why?

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    It's unreasonable to burn up two pages arguing about who is reasonable.
    I agree, I'd rather be discussing the issues but, what can I say? I'm a giver and ElNono seemed to need the attention.

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    What issues would you rather be discussing, Yoni?

    And why aren't you? Don't let me get in your way.

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    Too many. Torture, illegal spying, going to war in Iraq, translating the do ents just to name a few.
    Actually, I've supported every position I've ever posted on every one of these issues with sources and links to material outside this forum. That you don't agree with my position or that you don't agree with the sources I referenced doesn't meant I didn't mean I didn't support my positions. That I don't back them up to your satisfaction, doesn't make the positions unreasonable, either.

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    What issues would you rather be discussing, Yoni?

    And why aren't you? Don't let me get in your way.
    It's a compulsion.

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    Actually, I've supported every position I've ever posted on every one of these issues with sources and links to material outside this forum.
    No, you have not. And that's why you're unreasonable.

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    It's a compulsion.
    Does it bother you that I find you unreasonable, while I don't find other posters unreasonable?

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    No, you have not. And that's why you're unreasonable.
    Actually, I have. Pick one.

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    Does it bother you that I find you unreasonable, while I don't find other posters unreasonable?
    Nope.

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    Actually, I have. Pick one.
    Where are the WMD? Have they finished translating the do ents?

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    Good. It shouldn't, tbh.

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    It's unreasonable to burn up two pages arguing about who is reasonable.
    Might as well close down the political forum if you're going to start picking that nit.

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