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    Strictly speaking, not Spurs related. Still newsworthy, I think.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/69...ing-25-seasons

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    bavetta no. lol

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    Just get Joey Crawford out.

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    Javie was probably the best official in the NBA. Not good news.

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    ^ Yeah. This sort of sucks.

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    They don't have any work lined up as far as I can tell.

    Bring Donaghy back. We were doing well when he was officiating.

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    That sucks. Aside from kicking Rasheed Wallace out for looking at him in game 1 of the 2000 WCF, Javie was a pretty good ref.

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    That sucks. Aside from kicking Rasheed Wallace out for looking at him in game 1 of the 2000 WCF, Javie was a pretty good ref.
    That was Ron Garretson, not Javie.

    Agreed with the others: if Javie isn't the best, there aren't too many who might be better.

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    This


    Javies was not bad


    But Bavetta is an immortal POS

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    That was Ron Garretson, not Javie.

    Agreed with the others: if Javie isn't the best, there aren't too many who might be better.
    Good memory. I could swear it was Javie, but the 6:20 mark of the video says you're correct.

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    When did Tony Soprano start coaching in the NBA?

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    Good memory. I could swear it was Javie, but the 6:20 mark of the video says you're correct.

    I'll never forget that one, for some reason. I think it might be the most egregiously bad ejection I've ever seen in an NBA game -- other than Jess Kersey ejecting the Coyote and calling him "The Wolf"

    By 2000, Javie had mellowed quite a bit and wasn't nearly the control freak that he had been even 5 years earlier.

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    That should be good for about 5 games for us.

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    Javie is one of the few refs who was never intimidated by the home crowd in a playoff game. You could get a fairly called game from him if you were the road team.

    Why can't outright terrible refs like JCrawford, Bavetta, and Salvatore be sent out to pasture?

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    He will be missed

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    One of my faves, when I saw his name on a playoff game I was never worried about bad officiating.

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    Javie was also the only 1990s travelgate ref to have his day in court. He was acquitted. The rest of the schmoes copped deals and plead guilty.

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    If he had retired 10-15 years ago the fans generally have been dancing in the street. Javie really managed to reinvent himself to become one of the best in the business. Not sure what changed him, but he became hands down the best ref in the game.

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    If he had retired 10-15 years ago the fans generally have been dancing in the street. Javie really managed to reinvent himself to become one of the best in the business. Not sure what changed him, but he became hands down the best ref in the game.
    He and Joey Crawford exchanged personalities in that period. Joey use to be chill, but I think it was the Don Nelson situation in 2003 that sent him down the dark path. He completely derailed after the Duncan situation in 2007. Javie seems to have mellowed and matured in that period.

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    Sucks for the NBA that injuries took their toll on Javie.

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    All these guys blow. Get some good refs back who won't bend over for Stern.

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    All these guys blow. Get some good refs back who won't bend over for Stern.
    As soon as JCrawford, Bavetta, Salvatore, and maybe one or two others of the travel-gate refs are gone, Stern loses his hold over the ref corps.

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    Still waiting for Joey to retire although with his wife having cancer that seems kind of ty to say.

    Javie was also the only 1990s travelgate ref to have his day in court. He was acquitted. The rest of the schmoes copped deals and plead guilty.

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    Javie was also the only 1990s travelgate ref to have his day in court. He was acquitted. The rest of the schmoes copped deals and plead guilty.
    Kenny Mauer also refused to cop a deal. He used basically the same defense as Javie, but failed to make his case as was found guilty. Should have hired Javie's lawyer.

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    As soon as JCrawford, Bavetta, Salvatore, and maybe one or two others of the travel-gate refs are gone, Stern loses his hold over the ref corps.
    Other than Joey -- who continues to generally call balls and strikes pretty well, albeit while viewing himself as the focal point of the game and injecting his personality into everything -- I think that's already happening.

    Bavetta hasn't called a Finals game since 2008 (he had worked in every Finals between 1990 and 2008) and hasn't called a conference finals game since 2009. In 2011, he didn't call a game after the First Round and, then, didn't call any game later than Game 4 of MIA/PHI (he also called Game 2 of OKC/DEN and Game 3 of ORL/ATL). It's likely that Bavetta may get a token nod to call first round games in 2012 if there are playoffs, but not much more than that.

    Salvatore didn't work the 2011 Finals (he had worked in every Finals between 1995 and 2010) and only worked 1 conference finals game this past year. He wasn't a crew chief for a single playoff game in 2011, either.

    Joey continues to be Joey and he'll probably remain at the top for as long as he chooses to call games. Other than missing 2007 for suspension, he's called at least one game in every Finals from 1986 through 2011. I don't foresee that changing, particularly since the league (by my reckoning) completely left its normal rotation to get Joey into Game 7 of the 2010 Finals.

    But Joey and Danny Crawford are really the last of the sacred cows among the NBA officials.

    The league has slowly been working newer officials into the elite levels of the game for the last few years -- for good or for ill. In 2011, Marc Davis and Ed Malloy became Finals-level officials; in 2010, Bill Kennedy and Greg Willard reached that level for the first time; in 2009, Monty McCutchen and Derrick Stafford got there; and in 2008, Scott Foster got there. That's 7 of the 12 "best" officials in the game who've displaced the old guard in just since 2007. With Javie now gone, there will have been at least 75% turnover.

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