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The euros can't handle the brothas over a 7-game series. That's as nice as I can put it.
Spain would break down in the marathon aka NBA regular season and 7 game playoffs series.
Relying on Pau Gasol as your main scorer would suck. If he gets into foul trouble or doesn't show up then the team is really screwed.
The backcourt would get abused regularly so you'd have to utilize the Gasols which is a lot to ask for.
Spain would have intangibles like chemistry and experience but I don't think that'd be enough to overcome their disadvantages in the NBA; making the playoffs would be pretty difficult.
The euros can't handle the brothas over a 7-game series. That's as nice as I can put it.
This thread is slightly off-topic
Let's go back to Greece
You see that's the problem, they aren't a team that can maintain compete ive play in the NBA. Its a matter of composition and depth of the team that prevents them from being an early exit team. They need better depth to take pressure of Gasols so they can go several 7 game series' let alone the entire season. You're being so narrow and underrating what is needed to compete in the NBA that it's funny.
You want it even then make trades to fortify their bench and BC. Because that team would be tired come playoffs, moreso than NBA teams.
I don't really feel as alluded as I feel the need to highlight your childish idea of logistics involved in a team to compete in the NBA. You have the same naive notion of overvaluing talent that the Heat had.
tbqh, as soon as Vanessa Bryant tells a thing or two to Gasol's gf they become very beatable, IMO.
I think Marc is less of a pussy and would be more motivated to play.
One of Spain's strenghts is its depth so I don't know why you say they don't have it. Just becuase a player isn't playing in the NBA it doesn't mean he can't. The NBA have the very best players but it doesn't have the 500 (or whaever the number is) best players in the World. Navarro and Llull aren't playing in the NBA but they're better than many guards in the NBA, for example Keith Bogan the starting SG for the team with the best record in the league.
Why do you think they would struggle in the NBA? Just because?
Gasol led a less talented team to the playoffs three years in a row, why wouldn't he do the same with a much better team around him?
Spain doesn't rely on one or two guys to win, they play as a true team, so nobody would have more pressure on their shoulders than normal.
The team that went from a first round playoff team to championhip contender? Thanks.I don't really feel as alluded as I feel the need to highlight your childish idea of logistics involved in a team to compete in the NBA. You have the same naive notion of overvaluing talent that the Heat had.
If you didn't feel alluded why did you anwer a comment that wasn't directed to you?
Now you're just assuming too much here. All I was saying is that the Spanish team doesn't have the kind of depth to support the Gasol's through what could very well be 100 games + practice in under a year.
Can you honestly say that they have the bench to support the Gasols and remain compe ive in the NBA where a teams bench is better than the starters for a lot of countries? We already know Pau can't handle heavy minutes well as seen from the start of the season and several near injuries.
Gasol never lead them to a single victory, btw. Also, specify who you talk to next time. You just quoted me, afterall
Spain had a bench that went 12 deep every game, and has other quality players that didn't make the cut for the national team. They would easily get through a 82 game season. Plus, if the Mavs can win a le with the JET as their second option, I can't see why JC Navarro couldn't do the same. He's arguably an even more complete offensive player and less streaky than Terry.
You say that Spain doesn't have depth to compete on an NBA season but I am the one asuming too much?
Yes, they have a lot of depth and talent to compete during a whole season in the NBA. Gasol has managed to play enough minutes to lead a mediocre team into the playoffs three seasons in a row. Either way, if you watch Spain play you would realize that he doesn't need to play heavy minutes for his team to do well.Can you honestly say that they have the bench to support the Gasols and remain compe ive in the NBA where a teams bench is better than the starters for a lot of countries? We already know Pau can't handle heavy minutes well as seen from the start of the season and several near injuries.
I'm sure with Spain he would.Gasol never lead them to a single victory, btw. Also, specify who you talk to next time. You just quoted me, afterall
I think it was very clear who was directed to, tbh.
Yeah you are assuming too much because a national team wasn't put together with the idea of playing this many games. You're underrating the grind that's in an NBA season by saying the Spanish national team can plop right in and be contenders. They truly do not have the depth of a team like the Grizzlies, Mavericks, Nuggets, Blazers, etc. Their talent level isn't as high as the Heat, Knicks, Lakers or Celtics. They wouldn't be contenders before making trades.
Stop mentioning a younger Pau Gasol on the Grizzlies also, the man got older you know. He felt his age at the start of last season, if you paid attention to it.
You quoted me only
You can look at all the outside factors you want but Spain definitely has the talent and depth to be a very good team in the NBA, and with a preparation to play said league I don't see why these talented dedicated profesionals wouldn't be able to do well.
I also said that Gasol doesn't need to play heavy minutes for Spain to be successful. If you think Spain doesn't have the talent and depth to do well in the NBA then you need to watch more of their games.
You didn't post a smiley before I wrote that.
Talent is an outside factor for which they are somewhat above average, I'm speaking of things that makes teams go from early exits to conference champions. Spain doesn't have the depth most of the contenders in the NBA have. Quite honestly, you have no merit to say they do if you haven't seen their national team play several months with little break. NBA teams are proven to last the season and enter the playoffs ready, Spain's team is not.
You state things that look good on paper. The team does good in a few games, it does good in a tournament, they have talent, etc. What of that says they could handle an 82 game season + 4 to 16 games + constant practice? I'm not saying they couldn't win a few games if that was all they played, but it's just not very feasible to be very successful in an NBA season+post. They would make 8th in the west, maybe 7th or 6th in the east. This isn't an insult by any margin.
No doubt they have a nice frontcourt, but this is their backcourt: Calderon, Rudy Fernandez, Navarro, and Ricky Rubio.
Pretty ing pathetic. Rudy isn't an NBA caliber player. Navarro was a borderline NBA player. Rubio will also be a scrub. NBA guards would score on these guys at will.
I think even the Knicks would crush these dudes.
Rudy plays > 20 mpg in a playoffs team he is an NBA caliber player.
Navarro played one season with numbers similar to Ginobili's numbers in his first two seasons.
I don't know how Spain would be, but Navarro is better than a lot of NBA starters.
Rubio is a scrub.
Just one word about the rules and officiating. The OP said "FIBA rules".
This gives Spain a huge advantage IMHO.
I am not saying he is great or anything, just that he is an NBA caliber player.
Fernandez >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vspan
Ironic considering KBP's current choice of username.
You're an American.
Nope. Pau has been first option since Eurobasket03 pretty much. And yet, that wasn't the point I was making. I said that he is just as good as the current champions' second option. But a team with Navarro as it's first option would get nowhere in the NBA.
They can easily get a decent East playoff seed. As for the playoffs, depends on the seed. I can see them on a 2nd round series, losing then.
A team centred around Pau would win 2 to 3 les in the NBA, proven.
Spain is good, but whoever said they could beat the Spurs or the Mavs, is smoking pcp.
Nobody said that, I said that I'm not so sure about the Spurs beating Spain but if you put a gun in my head and make me choose I would probably pick the Spurs, although I wouldn't be so calm with my decision (really if you analyze player by player, I'm not so sure the Spurs have the better talent).
Nobody said anything about the Mavs, at leat not that I remember.
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