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  1. #151
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    It'll likely be BYU, Louisville, TCU, Boise State if 4 teams needed.
    BYU I could see.

    not TCU. They add nothing to the TV market and they seem pretty set with the Big East.

    Boise St would be interesting, but no TV markets.

    Louisville doesn't really matter much either.


    I think if the Big 12 stays together, I think they add BYU and stay at 10 for a while.

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    Big 12 has so much potential to be a great conference. I really hope Texas makes some concessions to help keep the Big-12 together. If they can legitimately add schools like BYU, TCU, and Louisville, they should be more than willing to concede a little.

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    BYU I could see.

    not TCU. They add nothing to the TV market and they seem pretty set with the Big East.

    Boise St would be interesting, but no TV markets.

    Louisville doesn't really matter much either.


    I think if the Big 12 stays together, I think they add BYU and stay at 10 for a while.
    The rumor going around is TCU wants to return to the MWC, but idk

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    BYU I could see.

    not TCU. They add nothing to the TV market and they seem pretty set with the Big East.

    Boise St would be interesting, but no TV markets.

    Louisville doesn't really matter much either.


    I think if the Big 12 stays together, I think they add BYU and stay at 10 for a while.
    Louisville adds alot to basketball though, so that would be the motivation to add them.

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    The rumor going around is TCU wants to return to the MWC, but idk
    really? that would be great

  6. #156
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    The rumor going around is TCU wants to return to the MWC, but idk
    FORT WORTH, Texas — Instead of a wake, the presidents and athletic directors of the Big East Conference held a virtual solidarity rally Tuesday in New York.

    And while no reported blood oaths were taken, the leaders of the league’s football-playing schools appear prepared to reaffirm their commitments.

    How prepared?

    Prepared enough, sources say, to pledge to abide by the conference’s 27-month advance notice requirement for teams wishing to withdraw.

    The six remaining Big East football-playing schools, plus TCU, which joins the conference in 2012, met Tuesday evening at the Grand Hyatt hotel in midtown Manhattan. That, in itself, has to be considered a positive sign.

    ........

    From a TCU standpoint, the meetings have to be viewed as a positive development. The Horned Frogs are already committed to the Big East. The new conference is their ticket into a possible future BCS bowl bid.

    Barring a complete disembowelment of the conference, the Big East — and the Big 12, too, for that matter — will retain its automatic BCS bid through the 2013 football season


    more:

    http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/c...=recent_bullet

  7. #157
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    I think Louisville Basketball generates like 20+ million per season. That's substantial for basketball. And they have a pro-style Arena, so more eyes for game revenue, etc...

    Louisville adds a lot and adds some viewership to a region now an SEC stronghold (just like the SEC is doing with added A&M to the Big-12 region).

    Reports are that the Big East will likely survive, but do so with a return to it's original emphasis as a dominantly basketball conference. While Louisville basketball fits that mold, I doubt Louisville wants to sacrifice its football program that, at one point, showed real promise to stay Big East when the conference doesn't have the horses now to remain a BCS AQ conference, especially once Rutgers and UConn bolt.

    Should Big-12 get Louisville, the ACC get Rutgers and UConn, and the SEC get West Virginia, I think the Big East goes after Xavier, Butler, maybe Dayton-types to round out its basketball focus. Maybe St. Joseph's as well for the lost Pennsylvania viewership (I know the market already is owned by Villanova, but still). This likely means Cincinnati moves on, maybe back to Conference USA, as I don't see them wanting to sacrifice their football program, either.

    Big East becomes Georgetown, St. John's, Notre Dame, Villanova, Marquette, Seton Hall, Providence, DePaul, Xavier, Butler, St. Joseph's and Dayton or UCF. Makes sense.

    It would be hilarious if the Big East loots a couple other conferences again after the former commissioner's statements about greed and how this conference raiding is ruining college athletics.

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    good job blake

  9. #159
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    I think Louisville Basketball generates like 20+ million per season. That's substantial for basketball. And they have a pro-style Arena, so more eyes for game revenue, etc...
    Lmao at the "KFC Yum! Center"

    I'm sold.

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    Texas screwed the pooch on the Big 12 deal ... surprise ...

    The Pac-12 decided it won't expand further late Tuesday because commissioner Larry Scott failed to get assurance that Texas would back an equal revenue sharing plan if the league added the Longhorns, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, a source with direct knowledge told ESPN.com.

    Scott didn't endorse expansion to the league's presidents and chancellors, the source said.

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...expand-further

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    LOLOLOLOL

    more proof that texas was in charge this entire team, even when people thought otherwise

    LMAO OU

    smart business thinking on texas' end by not budging, and now everyone knows who is in charge. they knew from the get-go they would have to give up some things for the Big-12 to work, but after all this happened the way it did, they likely dont have to give up nearly as much.

    at this point, its entirely up to them whether the big-12 works or not. even though they are clearly in charge now, they still need to know when to stop playing hardball, and restore some stability to the Big-12. it appears they do.

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...ap-big12-texas

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    LOLOLOLOL

    more proof that texas was in charge this entire team, even when people thought otherwise

    LMAO OU

    smart business thinking on texas' end by not budging, and now everyone knows who is in charge. they knew from the get-go they would have to give up some things for the Big-12 to work, but after all this happened the way it did, they likely dont have to give up nearly as much.

    at this point, its entirely up to them whether the big-12 works or not. even though they are clearly in charge now, they still need to know when to stop playing hardball, and restore some stability to the Big-12. it appears they do.

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...ap-big12-texas
    http://www.fansedge.com/Texas-Longho...837051_PG.html

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    Lmao at the "KFC Yum! Center"

    I'm sold.
    Yeah, it's a stupid in' name, but they generate more basketball revenue than any current Big-12 program, and have been tops in the nation several times.

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    Texas screwed the pooch on the Big 12 deal ... surprise ...
    Texas screwed OU's & OkState's pooch, not their own.

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    as interesting and fun as a Pac-16 with 4 pod conference sounded, I still wouldnt mind seeing a re-vamped Big 12. They can still be a very strong conference if they add BYU, TCU, and Houston, to replace A&M, Colorado, and Nebraska.

    however, I think they should bring back 2 divisions, and have Texas and OU be the headliner of each. something like this...

    Big-12 Divison 1

    Oklahoma
    Oklahoma State
    BYU
    Kansas
    Missouri
    Houston


    Big-12 Divison 2

    Texas
    Texas Tech
    TCU
    Kansas State
    Iowa State
    Baylor

    I think that this could most definitely turn out to be a strong conference, if they indeed intend to try to keep the Big-12 together.
    So basically the big 12 could become a souped up Southwest Conference.

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    Texas screwed the pooch on the Big 12 deal ... surprise ...

    The Pac-12 decided it won't expand further late Tuesday because commissioner Larry Scott failed to get assurance that Texas would back an equal revenue sharing plan if the league added the Longhorns, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, a source with direct knowledge told ESPN.com.

    Scott didn't endorse expansion to the league's presidents and chancellors, the source said.

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...expand-further
    tbh, why the would Texas agree to do equal revenue sharing in the Pac-12, if they can do it and keep the Big-12 together, and have much more power within the conference?

    smart thinking by UT tbh.

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    So basically the big 12 could become a souped up Southwest Conference.
    pretty much

    now, with all the jokes and BS aside, I have honest question for aggie fan

    if UT is willing to go along with revenue sharing, and tones down some of their Network, and they can add some stronger schools like BYU, TCU, Louisville, Boise State, West Virginia, or whatever other teams that could potentially become part of the Big-12, if given the option, would you rather A&M stay in the Big-12, or go to the SEC?

    again, im just trying to get your personal opinion, as opposed to bash or make jokes. i can understand both sides, just want to see what general Aggie fan would honestly rather do.

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    Goddammit, we need to idolize the Texas spirit and go independent! Just like the state could secede and be on its own our football team needs to do the same thing! Anyone who tries to stop us should be nuked!

    Texas, Yeah!!!

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    tbh, why the would Texas agree to do equal revenue sharing in the Pac-12, if they can do it and keep the Big-12 together, and have much more power within the conference?

    smart thinking by UT tbh.
    Because the Pac's TV deal is worth double what the current Big-12's is worth, and even with the LHN, Texas by failing to join the Pac and share revenue still costs itself money. Also, the stability of the Pac vs. the instability of the Big-12.

    And as far as joining a conference for finding a home for their non-football programs and Olympic sports, the Pac is the best conference overall and by miles.

    If it's only about control, it's smart. If it's about anything else, I think they lose money, both shortterm and longterm, and maybe miss on an opportunity to be a part of a stable and dominant conference overall, one with the most overall le success in all athletics, a strong commitment to academics, and the biggest TV deal in the history of big TV deals, I'm not so sure.

    Sacrificed the future on the altar of the immediate, and, in the process, may have burned enough of a bridge to not have the favor and good will they would have with the Pac in the future when they need the Pac should/when the Big-12 in whatever format falls apart. Pac will always take Texas, but it might means even less control and fewer minor concessions than they were willing to give Texas this time around.

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    Because the Pac's TV deal is worth double what the current Big-12's is worth, and even with the LHN, Texas by failing to join the Pac and share revenue still costs itself money. Also, the stability of the Pac vs. the instability of the Big-12.

    And as far as joining a conference for finding a home for their non-football programs and Olympic sports, the Pac is the best conference overall and by miles.

    If it's only about control, it's smart. If it's about anything else, I think they lose money, both shortterm and longterm, and maybe miss on an opportunity to be a part of a stable and dominant conference overall, one with the most overall le success in all athletics, a strong commitment to academics, and the biggest TV deal in the history of big TV deals, I'm not so sure.

    Sacrificed the future on the altar of the immediate, and, in the process, may have burned enough of a bridge to not have the favor and good will they would have with the Pac in the future when they need the Pac should/when the Big-12 in whatever format falls apart. Pac will always take Texas, but it might means even less control and fewer minor concessions than they were willing to give Texas this time around.
    From the sound of it, basically the only thing that is truly making the Big-12 unstable is the lack of revenue sharing. If Texas is willing to bend a bit in that area, and the Big-12 adds some nice programs, they will be an extremely strong conference.

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    Goddammit, we need to idolize the Texas spirit and go independent! Just like the state could secede and be on its own our football team needs to do the same thing! Anyone who tries to stop us should be nuked!

    Texas, Yeah!!!


    one of my favorite trolls of all time

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    From the sound of it, basically the only thing that is truly making the Big-12 unstable is the lack of revenue sharing. If Texas is willing to bend a bit in that area, and the Big-12 adds some nice programs, they will be an extremely strong conference.
    What "nice programs" wanna join a conference that is constantly unstable and has a school that wants to control everything while being as stingy as possible sharing revenue?

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    pretty much

    now, with all the jokes and BS aside, I have honest question for aggie fan

    if UT is willing to go along with revenue sharing, and tones down some of their Network, and they can add some stronger schools like BYU, TCU, Louisville, Boise State, West Virginia, or whatever other teams that could potentially become part of the Big-12, if given the option, would you rather A&M stay in the Big-12, or go to the SEC?

    again, im just trying to get your personal opinion, as opposed to bash or make jokes. i can understand both sides, just want to see what general Aggie fan would honestly rather do.
    Easy call for me. Go to the SEC. For me, there's three reasons why.

    1. Texas might be willing to agree to a more even split of the big12's pie that they're currently getting a double share on, but the LHN money is theirs. If they didn't want to share that money with USC/Oregon/Stanford/etc they're surely not going to share it with Baylor/Kansas/K-State/etc. Toning down the LHN, dumping Beebe and whatever other "demands" Texas might consider agreeing to would just be cosmetic. The Big 12 will continue to be a conference whose survival depends solely on Texas. Great for you if you're Texas. Not so great for you if you're not.

    2. While the big 12 can build itself a decent football conference by adding the likes of TCU, WVU and/or some others, there's no way that the long term earning power of that conference will outpace the SEC's.

    3. Long term, the Big 12 is still ed for no other reason than geography. They're surrounded by better conferences and if those conferences want to expand, the big 12 is their prime target. Whenever the superconference fad breaks loose, the big 12 is going to get eaten up.

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    Butthurt sips scared to play the Aggies going forward

    I thought I'd never see the day where Texas had its ego bruised so badly lmao

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    Once again, UT strings schools along, hinting that they will do one thing while knowing all along that they're gonna do something else.

    Props to Larry though on actually having balls and saying "no", something that UT isn't at all used to hearing.

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