Conference expansion/realignment thread

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Butthurt sips scared to play the Aggies going forward

I thought I'd never see the day where Texas had its ego bruised so badly lmao

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Because the Pac's TV deal is worth double what the current Big-12's is worth, and even with the LHN, Texas by failing to join the Pac and share revenue still costs itself money. Also, the stability of the Pac vs. the instability of the Big-12.

And as far as joining a conference for finding a home for their non-football programs and Olympic sports, the Pac is the best conference overall and by miles.

If it's only about control, it's smart. If it's about anything else, I think they lose money, both shortterm and longterm, and maybe miss on an opportunity to be a part of a stable and dominant conference overall, one with the most overall le success in all athletics, a strong commitment to academics, and the biggest TV deal in the history of big TV deals, I'm not so sure.

Sacrificed the future on the altar of the immediate, and, in the process, may have burned enough of a bridge to not have the favor and good will they would have with the Pac in the future when they need the Pac should/when the Big-12 in whatever format falls apart. Pac will always take Texas, but it might means even less control and fewer minor concessions than they were willing to give Texas this time around.

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What "nice programs" wanna join a conference that is constantly unstable and has a school that wants to control everything while being as stingy as possible sharing revenue?

programs that have outgrown the ty non-AQ conferences that they are currently in

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Butthurt sips scared to play the Aggies going forward

oh, i assume this 100% true claim comes from yet another aggiefan self-written article, as aggie has been doing this entire time?

rofl

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yeah I just chose to ignore that part. they havent exactly been a dominant conference in quite some time now. at least in football anyways

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oh, i assume this 100% true claim comes from yet another aggiefan self-written article, as aggie has been doing this entire time?

rofl

Try your athletic director.

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Try your athletic director.

He said he is afraid to play Texas A&M?

Link?

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I don't wanna leave for the SEC, if for no other reason than the ease of -talking in-state.

The only SEC-ers close enough to get into it with are LSU fans, and most of 'em are "lock-your-doors" black, so I'm prolly not gonna wanna...

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He said he is afraid to play Texas A&M?

Link?

Dodds on playing A&M: "I think it will be hard to schedule that game."

http://blog.chron.com/longhorns/2011...valry-may-end/

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The only SEC-ers close enough to get into it with are LSU fans, and most of 'em are "lock-your-doors" black, so I'm prolly not gonna wanna...

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Easy call for me. Go to the SEC. For me, there's three reasons why.

1. Texas might be willing to agree to a more even split of the big12's pie that they're currently getting a double share on, but the LHN money is theirs. If they didn't want to share that money with USC/Oregon/Stanford/etc they're surely not going to share it with Baylor/Kansas/K-State/etc. Toning down the LHN, dumping Beebe and whatever other "demands" Texas might consider agreeing to would just be cosmetic. The Big 12 will continue to be a conference whose survival depends solely on Texas. Great for you if you're Texas. Not so great for you if you're not.

2. While the big 12 can build itself a decent football conference by adding the likes of TCU, WVU and/or some others, there's no way that the long term earning power of that conference will outpace the SEC's.

3. Long term, the Big 12 is still ed for no other reason than geography. They're surrounded by better conferences and if those conferences want to expand, the big 12 is their prime target. Whenever the superconference fad breaks loose, the big 12 is going to get eaten up.

Understandable, certainly in a business sense.

But if A&M wants any chance to improve the relevance of their program, IMO the Big-12 would be their only chance. Going to the SEC would only cause their program to fade into irrelevance more than it already has, IMO.

I think the Big-12 has more earning potential than you think, but its hard to argue against the SEC's earning potential.

However, as for superconferences, I've heard more and more rumors that most conferences honestly do NOT want such a thing to happen. Could just be nonsense, who knows. Personally, I'm only interested in superconferences if it results in a playoff system. But if there won't be one, I think the way conferences are now is just fine, keeping them in the 8-12 team range is good.

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But if A&M wants any chance to improve the relevance of their program, IMO the Big-12 would be their only chance. Going to the SEC would only cause their program to fade into irrelevance more than it already has, IMO.

No, if we want to increase our relevance we have to get away from texas. Of course, we have to win too. Winning started last year, and will continue this year.

SEC will increase our national exposure.

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http://blog.chron.com/longhorns/2011...valry-may-end/

ROFL

no where did I sense him saying he is afraid to play A&M, nor was it stated.

if anything, its pointless to schedule yet another bag OOC team on the schedule on an annual basis than what they already have.

secondly, the UT/A&M rivalry means a of a lot more to A&M than it does to UT. UT isnt nearly as dependent on their rivalry game as teams like A&M and OU are. im pretty sure the real reason he states that is to point that exact fact out, that it does not hurt UT in the least bit to give up that annual rivalry.

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ROFL

no where did I sense him saying he is afraid to play A&M, nor was it stated.

if anything, its pointless to schedule yet another bag OOC team on the schedule on an annual basis than what they already have.

secondly, the UT/A&M rivalry means a of a lot more to A&M than it does to UT. UT isnt nearly as dependent on their rivalry game as teams like A&M and OU are. im pretty sure the real reason he states that is to point that exact fact out, that it does not hurt UT in the least bit to give up that annual rivalry.

Did you literally think he said he was scared of playing A&M? Idiot.

Personally, I hope the rivalry dies and we play LSU on t-day. They're the better team.

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SEC will increase our national exposure.

Um, yeah. In a negative way when they are getting the kicked out of them by teams they have no rivalry with like Bama, Florida, and such, as opposed to getting the beat out of them in games that are actually somewhat anticipated around the nation against longtime rivals such as UT.

@ aggie's inability to understand how potentially ed their program is, unless they string together a number of good seasons to begin their time in the SEC. if A&M immediately begins bottomfeeding, they are 100% completely screwed.

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Um, yeah. In a negative way when they are getting the kicked out of them by teams they have no rivalry with like Bama, Florida, and such, as opposed to getting the beat out of them in games that are actually somewhat anticipated around the nation against longtime rivals such as UT.

@ aggie's inability to understand how potentially ed their program is, unless they string together a number of good seasons to begin their time in the SEC. if A&M immediately begins bottomfeeding, they are 100% completely screwed.

You're an idiot.

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no where did I sense him saying he is afraid to play A&M, nor was it stated.

if anything, its pointless to schedule yet another bag OOC team on the schedule on an annual basis than what they already have.

secondly, the UT/A&M rivalry means a of a lot more to A&M than it does to UT. UT isnt nearly as dependent on their rivalry game as teams like A&M and OU are. im pretty sure the real reason he states that is to point that exact fact out, that it does not hurt UT in the least bit to give up that annual rivalry.

I've been thinkin about this recently, and while I think it's obvious the rivalry DOES mean more to A&M (though, horn fan still downplays the importance more than they should), I think Texas has become genuinely concerned about that game each year, seeing as how the playing field has somewhat leveled off in the last decade or so.

So, while they may not gain all that much from winning, they risk a LOT by losing (which has become more and more common recently), and, thus, they're hesitant to schedule A&M if they see a way out.

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Did you literally think he said he was scared of playing A&M? Idiot.

Personally, I hope the rivalry dies and we play LSU on t-day. They're the better team.

So basically you want to attempt to develop a rivalry with a school that has absolutely no reason in any figment of an imagination to start a rivalry with you, by getting the kicked out of you on national television annually?

Yeah, makes sense

Generally, rivalrys are started when two teams that are GOOD, play each other on a regular basis and have consistent games. Either that, or are located very closely together. Unfortunately, A&M and LSU have neither of those things to begin a rivalry on, and likely never will. It would be as if Purdue joined the Big 12 and decide they want the annual game against UT to become a rivalry. Never gonna happen.

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Who won last year? Who will win this year? Who has won more in the last 35 years?

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So basically you want to attempt to develop a rivalry with a school that has absolutely no reason in any figment of an imagination to start a rivalry with you, by getting the kicked out of you on national television annually?

Yeah, makes sense

Generally, rivalrys are started when two teams that are GOOD, play each other on a regular basis and have consistent games. Either that, or are located very closely together. Unfortunately, A&M and LSU have neither of those things to begin a rivalry on, and likely never will. It would be as if Purdue joined the Big 12 and decide they want the annual game against UT to become a rivalry. Never gonna happen.

We have a rivalry with LSU. A history with LSU. We are also close to LSU.

Texas A&M is closer to LSU than texas is to OU.

Back to my point: you're an idiot.

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I've been thinkin about this recently, and while I think it's obvious the rivalry DOES mean more to A&M (though, horn fan still downplays the importance more than they should), I think Texas has become genuinely concerned about that game each year, seeing as how the playing field has somewhat leveled off in the last decade or so.

So, while they may not gain all that much from winning, they risk a LOT by losing (which has become more and more common recently), and, thus, they're hesitant to schedule A&M if they see a way out.

Nice to see an actual decent Aggie on here make a good point and not talk out of their ass.

And I honestly cant say I disagree with any of your points. Jokes aside, it wouldnt make a whole lot of sense to schedule them annually. If you schedule an OOC opponent, you either want real trash teams to basically serve as a pre-season for your squad, or you schedule the absolute best. Doesn't make sense to schedule middle-of-pack teams, as there is too much at risk if you up and lose the game.

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So basically you want to attempt to develop a rivalry with a school that has absolutely no reason in any figment of an imagination to start a rivalry with you, by getting the kicked out of you on national television annually?

Yeah, makes sense

Generally, rivalrys are started when two teams that are GOOD, play each other on a regular basis and have consistent games. Either that, or are located very closely together. Unfortunately, A&M and LSU have neither of those things to begin a rivalry on, and likely never will. It would be as if Purdue joined the Big 12 and decide they want the annual game against UT to become a rivalry. Never gonna happen.

You obviously know nothing about the Rivalry between A&M and LSU. They are also very excited to be able to spark it up with us again. They really have no "true" rival in the SEC at this moment.

They have tried to push an Arkansas/LSU rivalry but it just hasn't worked out like an A&M/LSU rivalry will. The schools have great history together.

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We have a rivalry with LSU. A history with LSU. We are also close to LSU.

Texas A&M is closer to LSU than texas is to OU.

Back to my point: you're an idiot.

massively ancient rivalry, pretty much inactive. until last year, they hadnt played in what, 15 years?

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You obviously know nothing about the Rivalry between A&M and LSU. They are also very excited to be able to spark it up with us again. They really have no "true" rival in the SEC at this moment.

They have tried to push an Arkansas/LSU rivalry but it just hasn't worked out like an A&M/LSU rivalry will. The schools have great history together.

neat. have fun with that. in a few years, Aggies will privately be crying " its just not the same as the annual face ing at the hands of UT! "

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So, after saying that..

Nice to see an actual decent Aggie on here make a good point and not talk out of their ass.

You come back with this......

neat. have fun with that. in a few years, Aggies will privately be crying " its just not the same as the annual face ing at the hands of UT! "

nice.