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2009
2010
Gasol was not top 10
@ these Spurs fans
Other than 03, Duncan's other 3 championship runs in the playoffs are mediocre
22/12/3, 23/12/3, 24/12/3
2009
2010
Gasol was not top 10
According to a list of the top players in the game you game me he was in the top 5 both of those years.
To be exact he was- #1 in 2009 and #5 in 2010
TS% show this it is indisputable
Magic and Kareem have both led a team without a top 5 player on their team.i guess Duncan is better than Magic and Kareem, is that what your telling me?
Mr. mediocre 22/12 playoff run
and Duncan was not the best player in 2005 and 2007
Kareem did it in 1980. Magic did it in 1988.
They also both led their team in TS% in the regular season or playoffs during a championship year.
Once again you can't compare Kobe(can't lead in TS% or win without a top 5 player) to Tim Duncan(who has done both). That is what I'm saying.
Kobe has yet to do what Kareem and Magic did.
And Kobe dropped 33 on MJ (the "GOAT") as a 19 year old. What's your point? My point is Kobe was busting professional basketball players' ass (aka 76ers) ever since he was 16. Not playing them to a draw.
Mourning. Is he top 50? He coattailed Shaq to his only ring. GTFO with that Mourning crap son.
Duncan was not good enough to be a lotto pick fresh out of HS. Kobe wasPERIOD.
And yet, those stats are superior to Kobe's. If Duncan's stats are "mediocre" then Kobe's are downright ty.
Other than 03, Duncan's other 3 championship runs in the playoffs are mediocre
22/12/3, 23/12/3, 24/12/3
I realize you're getting your troll on, but I can't think of any other player post-merger that averaged 20 and 12 on at least 50% shooting in a championship run other than Shaq and Kareem. On the other hand, if we consider 27, 5, and 5 on at least 45% shooting something of a gold standard line for perimeter players, then it's something that has been done far more times than 20 and 12 on 50%.
And it's why that quote of: "There's no diplomatic to say this, Tim Duncan's playoff performances essentially run circles around Kobe Bryant's" rings so true.
I'll take 22/12/3/and 3 bpg on +50% from a big who is also your best defensive player over 28/6/6 on 45% shooting any day of the in' week, especially in the playoffs where defense, specifically interior defense, wins championships and rebounds equal rings.
I'm okay with that. Most likely gave Duncan a longer lifespan, without which, he probably wouldn't have better all-time stats and more Finals MVPs than Kobe.And Kobe dropped 33 on MJ (the "GOAT") as a 19 year old. What's your point? My point is Kobe was busting professional basketball players' ass (aka 76ers) ever since he was 16. Not playing them to a draw.
Mourning. Is he top 50? He coattailed Shaq to his only ring. GTFO with that Mourning crap son.
Duncan was not good enough to be a lotto pick fresh out of HS. Kobe wasPERIOD.
It all worked out. Sure, Kobe's one up on the ring count, but we know three of those are Shaq's rings, anyhow.
Ipso facto:::
Kobe: 5
tired old bag Duncan: 4
Kobe having the better series stats is something of illusion because of the huge disparity in Game 3. It's like saying a player who happened to score 100 points in a game during a 4 game series, but was kept scoreless in all other games had the better stats than a player who averaged 20 points a game that scored 20 points in each game. Sure, the first player has the better average, but he didn't have the better series.Kobe had better series stats than Paul Pierce but that didn't stop your boy midnight from yanking the mvp out of his hands.
Everybody saw Kobe murder the Spurs in the 4th quarters while Tim repeatedly shrunk from the moment.
Despite his relatively poor shooting, Duncan had one of the better series of his career against the Lakers in '02. He locked down the paint and boarded like a madman. And lol at reducing everything to 4th quarters. Bottom line, Duncan had the better series, and there's no way you can spin that , despite Kobe playing good in a couple of 4th quarters.
And no, Duncan didn't shrink from anything.
I don't do rings in individual player comparisons.
So,
Duncan: 3
Rich Man's Latrell Spreewell: 2
Arguing with these idiots has become part of your OCD bro.
Sometimes I can't help myself.
They need to understand and accept the fact that Kobe Bryant is a snitchin' chucker who needs the best front line the league to actually have a decent shot at a championship.
Well, on this Board we do.
Ipso facto:::
Kobe: 5
tired old bag Duncan: 4
They don't need to understand anything, it's facts regardless of what 2 idiots think. This type of dumb is why this board sucks now and I barely ever read it anymore. I've found that it seriously dumbs me down when I post here.
No, no we don't.
I feels ya.
Kobe: 5
tired old bag Duncan: 4
Duncan never led his team in TS%
and Kobe won 2 chips without a top 10 player
give me 30/5/6, 29/7/6, 29/6/6 over 23/13/3 any day of the weekAnd yet, those stats are superior to Kobe's. If Duncan's stats are "mediocre" then Kobe's are downright ty.
I realize you're getting your troll on, but I can't think of any other player post-merger that averaged 20 and 12 on at least 50% shooting in a championship run other than Shaq and Kareem. On the other hand, if we consider 27, 5, and 5 on at least 45% shooting something of a gold standard line for perimeter players, then it's something that has been done far more times than 20 and 12 on 50%.
And it's why that quote of: "There's no diplomatic to say this, Tim Duncan's playoff performances essentially run circles around Kobe Bryant's" rings so true.
I'll take 22/12/3/and 3 bpg on +50% from a big who is also your best defensive player over 28/6/6 on 45% shooting any day of the in' week, especially in the playoffs where defense, specifically interior defense, wins championships and rebounds equal rings.
I wouldn't expect any less, because you're a .
You are repeating yourself...
Kobe: 5
tired old bag Duncan: 4
merits repeating.
Yes, Duncan has.
Kobe hasn't won in rings without a top 5 player.
Kobe, Duncan, Pierce
Who gives a , really
Jordan and Hakeem both on all of them
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