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    Use your head indeed.

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    In Texas, a death penalty case costs an average of $2.3 million, about three times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at
    the highest security level for 40 years. (Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992).

    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/do ents/FactSheet.pdf
    From the so called "Fact Sheet"

    • In Texas, a death penalty case costs an average of $2.3 million, about three times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at
    the highest security level for 40 years. (Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992).
    1992?



    Who said it? What was said in context? Was it an editorial or did it provide factual backup? Was it a quote from another of those anti-death penalty groups?

    If it LOOKS like bull , SMELLS like bull , and TASTES like bull , it is probably bull .

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    LOL, The quote that you used specifically use the word "TRIALS" "TRIALS" can you read your quotes?? TRIALS
    It's still a trial even if they plead out, dumbass. It just happens in a day instead of a month.

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    From the so called "Fact Sheet"



    1992?



    Who said it? What was said in context? Was it an editorial or did it provide factual backup?

    If it LOOKS like bull , SMELLS like bull , and TASTES like bull , it is probably bull .
    LOL, he's been given all he has asked for and cant see past his confirmation bias.

    Using the average long term inflation rate of 3.43%, then that 2.3 million figure would look like about 4.2M in todays dollars... better?

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    It's still a trial even if they plead out, dumbass. It just happens in a day instead of a month.
    No it is not, you specifically have to waive your right to a TRIAL if you plead out. Are you serious? That is why it is called a plea bargain and not a trial. This is elementary. Also, I would probably refrain from trying to make personal attacks on intelligence when you are clearly either inferior overall or just having an extremely bad day.

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    LOL, he's been given all he has asked for and cant see past his confirmation bias.

    Using the average long term inflation rate of 3.43%, then that 2.3 million figure would look like about 4.2M in todays dollars... better?


    talk about confirmation bias!

    What is the context of the one sentence that was clipped out of the Dallas Morning News with no attempt to source the quote?

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    talk about confirmation bias!

    What is the context of the one sentence that was clipped out of the Dallas Morning News with no attempt to source the quote?
    No attempt to source the quote???



    (Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992)

    Do I need to make it bigger?

    (Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992)

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    No it is not, you specifically have to waive your right to a TRIAL if you plead out. Are you serious? That is why it is called a plea bargain and not a trial. This is elementary. Also, I would probably refrain from trying to make personal attacks on intelligence when you are clearly either inferior overall or just having an extremely bad day.
    God you are an idiot. There is still a trial. There is still a defendant, defense attorney, prosecutor, and a judge. They read the charges. The judge acknowledges that the defense and the prosecution have agreed to a plea and the judge accepts the plea. The defendant then pleads guilty and the judge assesses the agreed upon sentence.

    That is still a trial. It just takes an hour instead of a month.

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    From the so called "Fact Sheet"



    1992?



    Who said it? What was said in context? Was it an editorial or did it provide factual backup? Was it a quote from another of those anti-death penalty groups?

    If it LOOKS like bull , SMELLS like bull , and TASTES like bull , it is probably bull .

    i didnt call it a fact sheet, i was just putting it out there so numbers can be seen. as for your questions:

    Who said it?Dallas Morning News
    What was said in context? In the context of them doing research on the death penatly
    Was it an editorial or did it provide factual backup?You read the in article, i am not a teacher
    Was it a quote from another of those anti-death penalty groups? The Dallas Morning News

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    No attempt to source the quote???



    (Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992)

    Do I need to make it bigger?

    (Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992)
    Newspapers typically report the news, they don't make the news. I'm sure that they printed "Mr.X" from the "Y group" said that "executions cost blablablabla."

    Like I said, your "fact sheet" clipped the sentence out of context and didn't source the quote.

    Just because they report something someone said that doesn't automatically make tat statement true.

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    Newspapers typically report the news, they don't make the news. I'm sure that they printed "Mr.X" from the "Y group" said that "executions cost blablablabla."

    Like I said, your "fact sheet" clipped the sentence out of context and didn't source the quote.

    Just because they report something someone said that doesn't automatically make tat statement true.
    I think I remember you saying that you have been to college (I may be mistaken). When you wrote a paper and used a source (say a book for example) did you turn to the back of that book and find out the sources that they used and cite them too in your paper? For that matter, did you look up all of those sources turn to the back of those books/journals/articles/studies and cite everything that THEY used? No, you cite the place that YOU got the info from, anyone who would like to check your sources is free to do so.

    Once again, I would probably stop trying to play the idiot card from such a position of weakness.

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    I think I remember you saying that you have been to college (I may be mistaken). When you wrote a paper and used a source (say a book for example) did you turn to the back of that book and find out the sources that they used and cite them too in your paper? For that matter, did you look up all of those sources turn to the back of those books/journals/articles/studies and cite everything that THEY used? No, you cite the place that YOU got the info from, anyone who would like to check your sources is free to do so.

    Once again, I would probably stop trying to play the idiot card from such a position of weakness.


    Lets make it simple since you clearly are confused. In this case your source (the link you posted) was the "Death Penalty Information Center"

    It was not the Dallas Morning News.

    If you had footnoted that your source was the Dallas Morning News you would have been wrong and would have rightfully been marked down by your Professor.

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    Lets make it simple since you clearly are confused. In this case your source (the link you posted) was the "Death Penalty Information Center"

    It was not the Dallas Morning News.

    If you had footnoted that your source was the Dallas Morning News you would have been wrong and would have rightfully been marked down by your Professor.

    Lets make it simple since you are clearly confused. I didn't post this. I believe bus driver did. His source would have been the fact sheet. You stated that the fact sheet didn't source where that quote came from. They did, not only did they provide the periodical but also the exact issue.

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    Lets make it simple since you are clearly confused. I didn't post this. I believe bus driver did. His source would have been the fact sheet. You stated that the fact sheet didn't source where that quote came from. They did, not only did they provide the periodical but also the exact issue.
    The fact sheet listed where they saw the quote printed, not who said it. Very disingenuous and you clearly swallowed the hook.

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    The fact sheet listed where they saw the quote printed, not who said it. Very disingenuous and you clearly swallowed the hook.
    I take it back, maybe you didn't go to college, or if you did perhaps you didn't write a paper.

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    I feel like I am arm wrestling a newborn.

    Sure you win every time, but it's still unfulfilling because they don't understand.

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    I take it back, maybe you didn't go to college, or if you did perhaps you didn't write a paper.


    ing Dumbass...

    Example:

    Lets say that my premise is that Barack Obama is a socialist.

    Lets say that the New York times reported today that last night in the Republican debate that Ron Paul said that Barack Obama was a socialist.

    In my 'Fact sheet" I list that on 9/23/2011 the New York Times printed that Barack Obama was a socialist.

    See how this works?

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    I feel like I am arm wrestling a newborn.

    Sure you win every time, but it's still unfulfilling because they don't understand.


    You are too ing stupid to even know when you are getting owned.

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    Lets make it simple since you are clearly confused. I didn't post this. I believe bus driver did. His source would have been the fact sheet. You stated that the fact sheet didn't source where that quote came from. They did, not only did they provide the periodical but also the exact issue.
    i did, but i figured he was trying to play jedi mind tricks

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    i did, but i figured he was trying to play jedi mind tricks
    Another short bus rider checks in.

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    I feel like I am arm wrestling a newborn.

    Sure you win every time, but it's still unfulfilling because they don't understand.

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    Truly, you have a dizzying intellect

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    Wow, CC is a ing idiot.

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    Wow, CC is a ing idiot.
    But the man can cook.

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