Former Gov. Tom Kean says Christie is rethinking presidential bid

[ChuckD]

No shot? He would wipe the floor with the dumbdumb in office atm. Christie is a fatass, but he's not a pussy. Straight talk from McBlubber > same old worn out elementary grade cliches from Obama.

Like the inbred social conservs are going to vote for obama lmao.

You think it's one or the other. It isn't. The GOP needs their entire base to show up to win. Their margin is that slim.

They don't have to vote for Obama. They just have to like neither candidate and stay home, and not that damned many of them, either.

[ChuckD]

He won't run, he'll be airlifted.

Thank you. Thank you.

[Yonivore]

You think it's one or the other. It isn't. The GOP needs their entire base to show up to win. Their margin is that slim.

Actually, they don't (even though they will) and it's not.

Obama is losing black and Jewish voters at an alarming rate -- for him anyway. So much so, he threw on his black dialect and implored blacks to put on their marching shoes followed by his make up Rosh Hoshannah greeting to the Jews.

They don't have to vote for Obama. They just have to like neither candidate and stay home, and not that damned many of them, either.

Conservatives aren't staying home.

Obama may have a huge chunk of his voting bloc either doing so or switching parties.

[ChuckD]

Actually, they don't (even though they will) and it's not.

Obama is losing black and Jewish voters at an alarming rate -- for him anyway. So much so, he threw on his black dialect and implored blacks to put on their marching shoes followed by his make up Rosh Hoshannah greeting to the Jews.


Conservatives aren't staying home.

Obama may have a huge chunk of his voting bloc either doing so or switching parties.

Keep thinking that. The GOP needs a candidate who is electable in the general election, and acceptable to Tea Party. That candidate does not, and cannot exist.

[Yonivore]

Keep thinking that. The GOP needs a candidate who is electable in the general election, and acceptable to Tea Party. That candidate does not, and cannot exist.

Well, Tea Party voters want Obama out of the White House more than any possible dislike of a Republican candidate. They're voting and they will vote for whoever isn't Obama.

And, current polls say Obama loses.

Also, historically, no in bent has ever won re-election with unemployment above 7.2%

Finally, Mr. Hope and Change seems to be pissing off his base on a pretty regular basis these days.

[scott]

Are there not laws governing immigration into the United States of America? Would cir venting them not be a violation?

Illegal immigration is illegal because it violates the laws that govern immigration.

And, what about the immigrants that adhere to the process and enter this country legally? You know, in accordance with immigration laws.

If I'm someone who wants to put food on his family's table, and shelter over their head, ensure their survival and the best option is abroad... there is no law that is going to stop me from doing so.

That's the passionate response. The economic response will come when I have more time.

[Yonivore]

If I'm someone who wants to put food on his family's table, and shelter over their head, ensure their survival and the best option is abroad... there is no law that is going to stop me from doing so.

That's the passionate response. The economic response will come when I have more time.

How 'bout the legal response. Because, contrary to your earlier assertion, entering this country, by cir venting the immigration laws, is, in fact, illegal.

[scott]

How 'bout the legal response. Because, contrary to your earlier assertion, entering this country, by cir venting the immigration laws, is, in fact, illegal.

How is that contrary to my earlier assertion?

You aren't having a legality problem right now, you're having a comprehension problem.

[ElNono]

[ElNono]

I'd like to hear the economics take, btw

[scott]

I'd like to hear the economics take, btw

Try to remind me next week. I'm off to Denver and Great American Beer Festival in the morning.

[Wild Cobra]

Chris Christie is hardly the ally that illegal-immigration foes are looking for. In 2010, Christie told Politico that America needs to come up with a “clear path to citizenship.” He didn’t say “for illegal immigrants,” but since America already has a clear path to citizenship for legal immigrants, that’s what he meant. This is an entirely reasonable and mainstream position, but in much of the GOP, they call it “amnesty.”

To assume he means for illegals is idiotic I think. Just ask El Nono how difficult it is to legally immigrate here as a permanent resident or citizen. The process is difficult and expensive enough, my ex wife chose not to get citizenship.

[JoeChalupa]

If Christie jumps in the race Perry is toast and Romney will once again lose out. Christie knows this is his "time" just like Obama did. He'd win.

[ElNono]

To assume he means for illegals is idiotic I think. Just ask El Nono how difficult it is to legally immigrate here as a permanent resident or citizen. The process is difficult and expensive enough, my ex wife chose not to get citizenship.

Got my biometrics (fingerprints) done yesterday... getting closer

[JoeChalupa]

If I'm someone who wants to put food on his family's table, and shelter over their head, ensure their survival and the best option is abroad... there is no law that is going to stop me from doing so.

That's the passionate response. The economic response will come when I have more time.

I concur

[Spurminator]

Are there not laws governing immigration into the United States of America? Would cir venting them not be a violation?

Illegal immigration is illegal because it violates the laws that govern immigration.

And, what about the immigrants that adhere to the process and enter this country legally? You know, in accordance with immigration laws.

So basically what you're saying is that illegal immigration is illegal because it's illegal.

Solid take! This must be what happens when you go off script.

[Yonivore]

So basically what you're saying is that illegal immigration is illegal because it's illegal.

Solid take! This must be what happens when you go off script.

All crimes are illegal because there are laws making them so. That's what makes an act illegal. Do you want the derivation of the word 'illegal?'

[boutons_deux]

The Repugs and conservatives are inflating the Gibson guitar story, saying it shows how regulations hurt business.

but what Gibson imported were illegal, raw wood stock, against regulations that were clarified/extended/strenthend BY DUBYA AND THE REPUGS in 2008.

I'm sure Yoni and WC would like to clarify their positions on Gibson breaking the (Repug) regulations.

[ElNono]

Herman Cain on Christie

Should Christie run, he’ll find a resurgent Herman Cain looking to protect his flank. On Fox News Sunday, Cain said that Christie’s too much of a moderate to secure the GOP nomination.

“I believe that a lot of conservatives once they know his position on those things that you delineated, they’re going to not be able to support him. I think that is absolutely a liability for him if he gets the race,” the former Godfather’s Pizza CEO said. “Most of the conservatives believe that we should enforce our borders. They do not believe people should be here without do entation. They do not believe global warming is a 'crisis' or a 'threat' — yes it might be a little bit out there but they don’t see it as a 'crisis' or a “threat” and as you go right down the line, he’s going to turn off a lot of conservatives with those positions."

[Wild Cobra]

Herman Cain on Christie

Should Christie run, he’ll find a resurgent Herman Cain looking to protect his flank. On Fox News Sunday, Cain said that Christie’s too much of a moderate to secure the GOP nomination.

“I believe that a lot of conservatives once they know his position on those things that you delineated, they’re going to not be able to support him. I think that is absolutely a liability for him if he gets the race,” the former Godfather’s Pizza CEO said. “Most of the conservatives believe that we should enforce our borders. They do not believe people should be here without do entation. They do not believe global warming is a 'crisis' or a 'threat' — yes it might be a little bit out there but they don’t see it as a 'crisis' or a “threat” and as you go right down the line, he’s going to turn off a lot of conservatives with those positions."

I see Cain forgot about open primaries, where liberals screw up the republican primary process. Without a democrat primary, things could really get screwed up, worse than getting a McCain.

[JoeChalupa]

CNN is reporting he is NOT going to seek the nomination.

[clambake]

they should entice him with a buffet table.