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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    He would only have the * 99 ring of which Phil Jackson already is on record as saying is a fluke.

    Let me put this in context for you...we like to say Kobe 5 and Duncan 4 and it's true. However, Duncan won his les playing with 3 players that were great at their positions. Namely - Robinson, Parker, Manu.... Kobe's won with different teams with 1 player great ( Shaq) at his position and 1 player good (Pau) at his position.

    If you take Manu and Parker away from Shimmy and Take Snaq away from Kobe...Leave them both with a good big man. Shimmy keeps Robinson and Kobe keeps Pau then no matter how you slice it...it's still

    Kobe 2
    Duncan 1


    enjoy your weekend fellas.

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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    lol Kobe 0 ithout Shaq and Pau


    Jordan didn't need all-star bigs


    Magic and Kobe

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    lol Kobe 0 ithout Shaq and Pau


    Jordan didn't need all-star bigs


    Magic and Kobe

    but he needed the same thing that Duncan needed. all-star guards...

    lest I remind you:

    Jordan without Pippen (5 seasons):

    .430 win %

    0 les
    0 MVPs
    0 Finals MVP
    0 Finals appearances
    0 Playoff series wins
    1-9 playoff record
    0 NBA All Defense Team
    0 NBA Defensive Player of the year




    Kobe without Snaq (6 seasons):

    .611 win %
    3 Finals appearances
    2 Championships
    1 MVP (Reg season)
    2 MVP (Finals)
    5 NBA All Defense 1st Team
    81 points in 1 game
    62 points in 3 quarters (outscored Mavs all by himself)
    4 straight 50+ pt games

    30 straight 40+ games averaged 40 for a month



    Kobe 3 Seasons without Shaq or Gasol:
    .492 win %
    0 les
    1 Regular Season MVP
    0 Finals MVP
    0 Finals appearances
    0 Playoff series wins
    4-8 playoff record
    3 NBA All Defense Team
    0 NBA Defensive Player of the year


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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Jordan without Pippen (5 seasons):

    .430 win %
    0 les
    0 MVPs
    0 Finals MVP
    0 Finals appearances
    0 Playoff series wins
    1-9 playoff record
    0 NBA All Defense Team
    0 NBA Defensive Player of the year
    Pippen

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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    but he needed the same thing that Duncan needed. all-star guards...

    lest I remind you:

    Jordan without Pippen (5 seasons):

    .430 win %

    0 les
    0 MVPs
    0 Finals MVP
    0 Finals appearances
    0 Playoff series wins
    1-9 playoff record
    0 NBA All Defense Team
    0 NBA Defensive Player of the year




    Kobe without Snaq (6 seasons):

    .611 win %
    3 Finals appearances
    2 Championships
    1 MVP (Reg season)
    2 MVP (Finals)
    5 NBA All Defense 1st Team
    81 points in 1 game
    62 points in 3 quarters (outscored Mavs all by himself)
    4 straight 50+ pt games

    30 straight 40+ games averaged 40 for a month



    Kobe 3 Seasons without Shaq or Gasol:
    .492 win %
    0 les
    1 Regular Season MVP
    0 Finals MVP
    0 Finals appearances
    0 Playoff series wins
    4-8 playoff record
    3 NBA All Defense Team
    0 NBA Defensive Player of the year

    Still, he didnt have dominating bigs

    ANd he beat teams that had centers, Ewing, Alonzo, Shaq

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    lol not mentioning how many seasons without Shaq - Gasol
    lol having to reach for Jordan's Wizards days
    lol suggesting TD > Jordan
    lol Kevin

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    ...though Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game until Kobe took him in and Kobe won 2 without Daddy.

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    ...though Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game until Kobe took him in and Kobe won 2 without Daddy.
    Though Kobe couldn't get out of the 1st round until Gasol took him in and Pau won 2...

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    Though Kobe couldn't get out of the 1st round until Gasol took him in and Pau won 2...
    Though Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him in & Kobe won 2 without Daddy.

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Though Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him in & Kobe won 2 without Daddy.
    Though Kobe was given the keys to the franchise and couldn't get out of the 1st round until Pau took him and won 2

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Though Kobe was given the keys to the franchise and couldn't get out of the 1st round until Pau took him and won 2
    Though Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him in and Kobe won two without Daddy. & Daddy only won 1 without Kobe, &:::

    Kobe: 5

    tired old bag Duncan: 4

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Though Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him in and Kobe won two without Daddy. & Daddy only won 1 without Kobe, &:::

    Kobe: 5

    tired old bag Duncan: 4
    Though Kobe was given the keys to the franchise and couldn't get out of the 1st round until Pau took him and won 2

    Boiled down:::

    Duncan 4

    Daddy 4

    Pau 2

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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    Kobe: 0
    Shaq: 3
    Pau: 2


    Tee, Hee

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Kobe: 5

    tired old bag Duncan: 4

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    I Make Love To Pressure MR.SILVER&BLack's Avatar
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    2003. made the lakers cry like es on tv & won a championship with manu who was a bench warmer, parker who lost his spot to speedy claxton, & robinsons who could barley manage 20 mins a game.

    kobes 1st round exit to nash and the "defensive minded" suns without amare.

    Kobe on a team that spent over 100 mil just so he could get bukkaked by an old man, midget, & a turtle.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    2003. made the lakers cry like es on tv & won a championship with manu who was a bench warmer, parker who lost his spot to speedy claxton, & robinsons who could barley manage 20 mins a game.

    kobes 1st round exit to nash and the "defensive minded" suns without amare.

    Kobe on a team that spent over 100 mil just so he could get bukkaked by an old man, midget, & a turtle.
    Still & all, Kobe handed the tired old bag Duncan the ty end of the 5-4 stick and Duncan had no other choice but, to take hold. It's topsy-turvy now. Kobe is topsy. the tired old bag Duncan is turvy.

    It happens.

    the bag should take heart though. At least Kobe didn't retire him holding that ty end of the 5-4 stick like he did Daddy. Daddy has to hold it for eternity.

    Oh, me.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    Switching Manu and Parker with Shaq and how many les would we have?

    Kobe: 2
    Timmy: 10

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    Switching Manu and Parker with Shaq and how many les would we have?

    Kobe: 2
    Timmy: 10
    That's pie in the sky.

    Timmy is down 5-4 and his bag is draggin'.

    It happens.

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    2004-2005 NBA Champions Barfunk's Avatar
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    Kobe never rang, made it out of the first round, and missed the playoffs altogether without Shaq until Pau Gasol came along.

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    Dryer than Kunta's ankles Ashy Larry's Avatar
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    Kobe never rang, made it out of the first round, and missed the playoffs altogether without Shaq until Pau Gasol came along.

    you can also say Duncan never defended his le ......

    back-to-backs

    Bryant: 3
    Duncan: 0


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    tbh, Kobe would have zero if not for Fisher

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    tbh, Kobe would have zero if not for Fisher
    "would have" has Duncan, tired & old, totin' his bag around, holding the dirty end of the 5-4 stick.

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Kobe never rang, made it out of the first round, and missed the playoffs altogether without Shaq until Pau Gasol came along.
    & Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him in. & Kobe sent Daddy into eternity down 5-4.

    Duncan & his requisite tired old bag better get on the ball, or, he'll end up in the same place as Daddy...SOL.

    It happens. It happened to Daddy. Timmy ain't immune.

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    Dryer than Kunta's ankles Ashy Larry's Avatar
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    man, can you imagine this room if Kobe or Duncan rings atleast once more ?????

    damn, thats gonna be some funny ........

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