What Duncan Would Look Like Without Manu and Parker

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

And since Duncan like to swim, that would make him Aquaman. Everyone s on Aquaman, even Robin

here's to Aquaman

I see we can go by what they do off court.

srry cant think of any heros who rape hotel maids or assult people at church.

so yea heres to aquaman.

good of you to honor a true nba great. dont know why we where toasting to a 2nd banana.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Better thread: Who is better: Scottie Pippen or Kome Cryant?

pippen: 6
old bag rapist: 5

cue cullby

[Giuseppe]

Kobe quit in the Finals. None of the other guys did.

Jordan quit 3/4 of a season and then tried to sneak back in and steal one. Uh, uh. Your Rodman quit in the playoffs. Pippen quit right in the timeout huddle.

[Ashy Larry]

Which is sad considering how much talent he always has(besides 2006).

2003 - front office made zero moves and the league caught up with them. Didn't help that "Batman", the supposed team leader, got surgery on his own time. They expended too much energy in trying to reach that 4 seed.

2004 - Scott Williams and Malone's playoff injury. Slava/Walton combo on Sheed = death. And the fact that "Batman" was out rebounded by a smaller Ben Wallace. That should never happen. Bryant was awful in that series as well. Compton's finest, Tayshawn Prince, always gives Bryant problem and he shots the Lakers out of a couple games; also saved their asses in game 2.

2008 - 24 point blown lead came back and bit them but the C's were clearly better. Yeah, Bryant had nice talent but no one other than he and Fish had really been on that stage; and it showed. People wanna say Bryant was second fiddle to Pau, look at that series. Dude crumbled like a at times and got in the fetal position. The next time they played with a ring under his belt, he played like a man.

2011 - Just the Mavs year. Matchup problems everywhere and Dirk clearly destroyed, as you guys call him, the team leader. Little JJ killed our point guards and lived in the paint. Lotta talent but Dallas was clearly hungrier and better.

[Nathan89]

those were tough times .... I think they would pull the fire alarms at the Lakers' hotel in the middle of the night so they kept having to get up and evacuating the building ..... but for everyone the Lakers should have had, they could easily have one taken away - 2000 vs the blazers and 2002 vs. the Kings

Yep. 2002 when the refs had to cheat to get a team with two so called top ten all-time players.

[Giuseppe]

Yep. 2002 when the refs had to cheat to get a team with two so called top ten all-time players.

& CWEBB got happy, turned his back on Horry and headed on back up the lane.

tee, hee.

[Ashy Larry]

Yep. 2000 could very easily been the end before it ever really got started.

I get nervous just thinking about that game with Portland.

that lob from Bean to Shaquille ... once that went down, I ran down the street in my drawls ........ just a tremendous play. Nice crossover and finish. If Shaquille had the work ethic of that 2000 season every year, he'd easily be top 3 ......

[ElNono]

Jordan quit 3/4 of a season and then tried to sneak back in and steal one. Uh, uh. Your Rodman quit in the playoffs. Pippen quit right in the timeout huddle.

None in the Finals... except the snitch.

[Nathan89]

2003 - front office made zero moves and the league caught up with them. Didn't help that "Batman", the supposed team leader, got surgery on his own time. They expended too much energy in trying to reach that 4 seed.

2004 - Scott Williams and Malone's playoff injury. Slava/Walton combo on Sheed = death. And the fact that "Batman" was out rebounded by a smaller Ben Wallace. That should never happen. Bryant was awful in that series as well. Compton's finest, Tayshawn Prince, always gives Bryant problem and he shots the Lakers out of a couple games; also saved their asses in game 2.

2008 - 24 point blown lead came back and bit them but the C's were clearly better. Yeah, Bryant had nice talent but no one other than he and Fish had really been on that stage; and it showed. People wanna say Bryant was second fiddle to Pau, look at that series. Dude crumbled like a at times and got in the fetal position. The next time they played with a ring under his belt, he played like a man.

2011 - Just the Mavs year. Matchup problems everywhere and Dirk clearly destroyed, as you guys call him, the team leader. Little JJ killed our point guards and lived in the paint. Lotta talent but Dallas was clearly hungrier and better.

It's sadPERIOD

[Ashy Larry]

Yep. 2002 when the refs had to cheat to get a team with two so called top ten all-time players.

didnt have to cheat to beat the spurs though ..... they curbstomped those s

[Giuseppe]

None in the Finals... except the snitch.

But, each one quit nonetheless.

[Nathan89]

& CWEBB got happy, turned his back on Horry and headed on back up the lane.

tee, hee.

That was after the refs.

[ElNono]

But, each one quit nonetheless.

None in the Finals, nonetheless.

[Giuseppe]

That was after the refs.

& after Adelman told him not to.

[Nathan89]

didnt have to cheat to beat the spurs though ..... they curbstomped those s

Yes, the Spurs can't afford the talent the Lakers can.

If they could Duncan would have won in 2004 and 2006.

[Ashy Larry]

& CWEBB got happy, turned his back on Horry and headed on back up the lane.

tee, hee.

Game 6 was obvious .........

Game 5 could easily be the same. Kings tap the ball out of bounds and get the ball. Pick on Fish, IMO, was clean. No gripe there. But Shaquille and Bryant have 11 fouls total, the Kings entire roster had 20 and known hack Scott Pollard, has not one personal foul guarding Shaquille??? LOL ......

But even with that said. Game seven in the toughest arena to play in and they choked.

here's to the Heimlich

[Ashy Larry]

Yes, the Spurs can't afford the talent the Lakers can.

If they could Duncan would have won in 2004 and 2006.

translation:

back-to-backs

Duncan: 0
Bryant: 3

O'Neal: 2
Bryant: 3

[Nathan89]

translation:

actual meaning:

If Duncan's team was handicapped by the checkbook his ring total would all over Kobe and Shaq. He would be a top 5 player all-time.

[Ashy Larry]

actual meaning:

If Duncan's team was handicapped by the checkbook his ring total would all over Kobe and Shaq. He would be a top 5 player all-time.

Now you're making it sound like he had around him ..... they had the number one seeded team in the league in 2004 against a Lakers squad with an 80-85% Malone, if that.

And 2006: they finished once again with the best record in the league and gagged at home.

I wouldn't blame the money. I blame would blame the city. And that doesn't erase the fact that the Spurs had four chances to repeat and went 0-4 and a few of those teams that didn't were considered the best in the west when the playoffs started.

[Giuseppe]

translation:

back-to-backs

Duncan: 0
Bryant: 3

O'Neal: 2
Bryant: 3

Said "out loud" like this it's quite impressive.

Ashy

[Giuseppe]

If

[Giuseppe]

Game 6 was obvious .........

Game 5 could easily be the same. Kings tap the ball out of bounds and get the ball. Pick on Fish, IMO, was clean. No gripe there. But Shaquille and Bryant have 11 fouls total, the Kings entire roster had 20 and known hack Scott Pollard, has not one personal foul guarding Shaquille??? LOL ......

But even with that said. Game seven in the toughest arena to play in and they choked.

here's to the Heimlich

Exactly. The Kings were searching high & low for a way to lose.

Ashy

[LkrFan]

Still, he didnt have dominating bigs

ANd he beat teams that had centers, Ewing, Alonzo, Shaq

He had dominant versatile defenders though

Grant (ask TD ) - could defend centers and PFs
Rodman - could defend all 5 positions
Pippen - could defend every position but center

There are others, but between these 3 versatile defenders and offensive specialists (I.e. Kukoc, Kerr, Paxson), MJ's teams were stacked.

And who said MJ didn't have legit bigs? The Worm is in the HOF and so is Pippen. I laugh when people say MJ did it without good bigs. He had them. If they were playing the likes of Shaq, Ewing, Daughterty, Dream, or Zo, Phil Jackson employed centers/PFs by committee to supply likke 18-24 timely fouls per game to slow him down and shut EVERYBODY else down. Cartwright, Wennington, Luc Longly, Bison Dele, etc., were all ready to give timely fouls. They all were effective offensively.

You don't win 6 rings without legit bigs. MJ didn't have 20/10 bigs because he didn't need them with how their rosters were constructed.

[dbreiden83080]

He would only have the * 99 ring of which Phil Jackson already is on record as saying is a fluke.

What does Phil Jackson say about the 2004 neutering the Pistons gave his Lakers?

[LkrFan]

What does Phil Jackson say about the 2004 neutering the Pistons gave his Lakers?