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    selbstverständlich Agloco's Avatar
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    Lol Hermann.

    Lol electable.

    Way to squash any momentum you might have had coming out of FL.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...lame-yourself/

    If you're dissatisfied with the economy, or unemployed, Herman Cain thinks you should take a long, hard look in the mirror.

    In an interview with the Wall Street Journal posted Wednesday, the up-and-coming GOP 2012 contender and former CEO of Godfather's Pizza summed up his bewilderment about recent demonstrations on Wall Street.

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    working class, poor tea baggers and red-state bubbas suck this kind of down, even without cheese and bacon and bbq sauce on it.

    5+ job seekers for every job offered.

    Cain, and all you Repugs, just GFY.

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    What exactly is wrong with what he said?

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    Nothing wrong with it at all. He won't win the nomination any how.

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    Another supposedly smart right-winger claiming he doesn't know what the Wall St protests are about.

    Another hate-govt right winger, like Jimmy Ricky, who worked in or for govt for a long time, getting paid with taxpayer dollars when taxes were a lot higher.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Considering what Wall St did, I think its OK to blame them. That doesn't mean you can't be introspective, but come the on.

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    He probably should've left out the "no job" bit, but I'm ok with what he said. Chris Gardner, anyone?

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    He probably should've left out the "no job" bit, but I'm ok with what he said. Chris Gardner, anyone?
    Do you think Wall Street deserves blame?

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    What exactly is wrong with what he said?
    "It is not a person's fault because they succeeded. It is a person's fault if they failed." - Godfather Herm

    Blanket statements such as these tbh. Herm's world is black and white. That's a dangerous mindset.

    I don't really give a rats ass about the comment itself though. My point was really to say that he's unelectable.

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    Considering what Wall St did, I think its OK to blame them. That doesn't mean you can't be introspective, but come the on.
    Exactly what did Wall Street do?

    Pay their CEOs too much? It's their money...Oh, and I seem to remember posting an article that pointed our the compensation packages for the top 25, of the Fortune 500 companies, did not amount to the more than $500 million dollars the Obama administration threw down the Solyndra money pit.

    Not pay enough in taxes? Government constructed the tax code and businesses would do their stockholders a disservice to throw away money when they are playing by the rules that have been dictated.

    Took TARP money? I seem to remember there was a meeting, during the Bush administration, where his Treasury Secretary, Paulson, current Treasury Secretary Tim Geigthner, FDIC Chair Sheila Blair, and Fed Chair Ben Bernanke strong-armed Wall Street Banks into taking TARP money. I said, at the time, they should have let the banks fail.

    And, another thing, the "Occupy Wall Street" protests are doing less to big business than they are to the thousands of not-so-rich Wall Street employees just trying to eke out a living like the rest of us.

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    I'm a Cracker for Cain!

    Here's the entire quote...

    "When I was growing up I was blessed to have had parents. That didn't teach me to be jealous of anybody and didn't teach me to be jealous of somebody," Cain explained.

    "It is not a person's fault because they succeeded. It is a person's fault if they failed. And so this is why I don't understand these demonstrations and what is it that they're looking for."
    I think the point is; jealousy and blame won't put food on your plate.

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    Basically he said that if things aren't going the way you want them to then take a hard look at yourself first. I think that is great advice.

    Life is full of choices. The people that make good choices somehow always seem to be the "lucky" ones.

    If you can't get a job, take a hard look at yourself and ask yourself why and what you can proactively do to increase your chances of getting a job instead of (making the choice) to sit on your ass and about the bad economy.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Exactly what did Wall Street do?
    I stopped reading here.

    If you've got 2 hours to spare watch Inside Job. I know your aversion to reading so I won't recommend any books. Inside Job is the best delivery of the material I've come across in any case.

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    Basically he said that if things aren't going the way you want them to then take a hard look at yourself first. I think that is great advice.

    Life is full of choices. The people that make good choices somehow always seem to be the "lucky" ones.

    If you can't get a job, take a hard look at yourself and ask yourself why and what you can proactively do to increase your chances of getting a job instead of (making the choice) to sit on your ass and about the bad economy.
    I agree, I think that is damn good advice to individuals. But he also said not to blame Wall St. I have a huge problem with that.

    I honestly think a lot of people in this country could use a huge dose of introspection. But I have a real problem with a presidential candidate letting Wall Street off the hook like that.

    I don't have a problem with a politician telling you that when gets bad to sack up and just get things done. I would LOVE more of that, actually.

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    If you can't get a job, take a hard look at yourself and ask yourself why and what you can proactively do to increase your chances of getting a job instead of (making the choice) to sit on your ass and about the bad economy.
    Yeah, I completely agree with the premise.

    I problem I have is that somehow protesting and being proactive in job hunting are mutually exclusive in Herms mind.

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    I agree, I think that is damn good advice to individuals. But he also said not to blame Wall St. I have a huge problem with that.

    I honestly think a lot of people in this country could use a huge dose of introspection. But I have a real problem with a presidential candidate letting Wall Street off the hook like that.
    I think we agree on this issue, I just think it's a matter of interpretation of what he said/meant. Basically I interpreted him to be saying don't blame your PERSONAL problems or lack of success on Wall Street. In other quotes I have read/heard Cain doesn't really let Wall street off the hook for contributing to the current state of the economy and clearly recognizes that money is influencing politics...thus his simple 999 tax change proposal.

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    Fair enough.

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    Yeah, I completely agree with the premise.

    I problem I have is that somehow protesting and being proactive in job hunting are mutually exclusive in Herms mind.
    Well, if you're "occupying Wall Street," you're not hunting for a job; are you?

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    That plan is so creepy.

    If you play it backwards it says over and over "Turn me on, dead man"

    and of course, if you turn it upside down it is

    6 6 6

    Did Cain listen to the Beatles too much?

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    Another supposedly smart right-winger claiming he doesn't know what the Wall St protests are about.

    Another hate-govt right winger, like Jimmy Ricky, who worked in or for govt for a long time, getting paid with taxpayer dollars when taxes were a lot higher.

    Maybe you would like to explain the incoherent ramblings of the the mob. Other than Obama is their man and he deserves re-election as
    dictator in chief.

    The "Occupy Wall Street" protesters have listed 13 proposed demands from their website.

    Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be ins uted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

    Demand two: Ins ute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

    Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

    Demand four: Free college education.

    Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

    Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

    Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

    Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

    Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

    Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

    Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

    Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

    Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

    These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.

    .....

    Hey Boutons when are you hitting the streets?

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    uhhh...that list isn't an official list. It was just posted by a nobody on a blog and got picked up by the media as being official.

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    While I admire the people who are hitting the streets (to be hit by the white-shirted pigs), they won't accomplish anything unless they get people elected to Congress.

    And since, unlike the tea baggers who had/have Kock Bros and other VRWC payers, the Occupy Wall St crowds don't have any financial backing.

    Since America has been, is, always be for sale, no financial backing means no electoral results.

    Their demands would do so much for jobs for Human-Americans, and for American.

    Compare with Repugs' intentions and actions of pro-cyclical job destruction.

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    uhhh...that list isn't an official list. It was just posted by a nobody on a blog and got picked up by the media as being official.
    They actually have one posted now.

    First OFFICIAL Release from OCCUPY WALL STREET (User Submitted)

    Looks to me like most of their grievances are self-inflicted or should be directed at government.

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    Well, if you're "occupying Wall Street," you're not hunting for a job; are you?
    Didn't we just get a reminder of how that can be done anywhere now?

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