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  1. #126
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    Since Manning won't play because he will be prepping for the SB, who will replace him? VY? If so, does he count as a two-time Pro Bowler?
    It'll be VY....But this is why I hate the Pro-Browl. Half the roster ends up being alternates. Shaub and Vince are what the 2nd and 3rd alternates????

    Their should be a different distinction for alternates.

    And by the way Vince>>>>>>>>shaub

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    It'll be VY....But this is why I hate the Pro-Browl. Half the roster ends up being alternates. Shaub and Vince are what the 3rd and 4th alternates????

    Their should be a different distinction for alternates.

    And by the way Vince>>>>>>>>shaub
    Pro bowl is a joke. It means nothing. That is why I like the Baseball all star game. At least it has a meaning to the winner.

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    Pro bowl is a joke. It means nothing. That is why I like the Baseball all star game. At least it has a meaning to the winner.
    Very true. On that note, NBA all star game is a joke aswell.

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    Very true. On that note, NBA all star game is a joke aswell.
    Yeah that one is just a dunk contest.

  5. #130
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    IMO anything that has fan voting is a crock.

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    the MLB "prize" is a novelty, and kinda stupid imo. the game is still meaningless in this day and age.

  7. #132
    So the fact that Schaub made the AFC Pro Bowl makes him a better QB than Romo? That proves nothing.

    It wouldn't be surprising if TR ends up making the 2010 Pro Bowl as well under the twisted Pro Bowl system now in place. Since houston football fans like stats so much, that would make 3 PB appearances for TR. That's not the point.

    Romo had his best year of his four year career after taking a HOF receiver OFF his team. That is impressive to me. Three out of four years in the playoffs is pretty good too.

    The Houston "Pro Bowl" quarterback is a nice little player, but I don't think he is a better player than Romo. The non-playoff season we saw in Houston this year was the greatest season in Houston Texan history. Last year the same 9-7 record was viewed as nothing but a huge failure in Dallas.

    Schaub would struggle living in the big fishbowl that Romo has to live in.

    If Schaub played QB in Dallas I don't think that team would have made the playoffs this year. He throws a nice ball but his lack of mobility would not serve him well. Romo made many plays down the field after being flushed out of the pocket with pressure. Schaub would just take the sack and is much easier to get to.

    The lack of pass protection in Dallas showed up in the MN game. Even Romo could not escape that onslaught.
    Last edited by Harry Callahan; 01-24-2010 at 11:29 AM.

  8. #133
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    I can't believe this thread is still here. Romo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>Schwab

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    So the fact that Schaub made the AFC Pro Bowl makes him a better QB than Romo? That proves nothing.

    It wouldn't be surprising if TR ends up making the 2010 Pro Bowl as well under the twisted Pro Bowl system now in place. Since houston football fans like stats so much, that would make 3 PB appearances for TR. That's not the point.

    Romo had his best year of his four year career after taking a HOF receiver OFF his team. That is impressive to me. Three out of four years in the playoffs is pretty good too.

    The Houston "Pro Bowl" quarterback is a nice little player, but I don't think he is a better player than Romo. The non-playoff season we saw in Houston this year was the greatest season in Houston Texan history. Last year the same 9-7 record was viewed as nothing but a huge failure in Dallas.

    Schaub would struggle living in the big fishbowl that Romo has to live in.

    If Schaub played QB in Dallas I don't think that team would have made the playoffs this year. He throws a nice ball but his lack of mobility would not serve him well. Romo made many plays down the field after being flushed out of the pocket with pressure. Schaub would just take the sack and is much easier to get to.

    The lack of pass protection in Dallas showed up in the MN game. Even Romo could not escape that onslaught.
    Schaub did all that WITHOUT a running game, and still passed for so many yards and touchdowns. The 9-7 record isn't his fault, it's the running game's, and defense as well. Put Romo in a situation where he has no run support, and he wouldn't flourish. You can't look at the records, but at what worked effectively for each team

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    @ texan fan.

    As a person who could give a crap about either team, romo is a much better QB than shaub.

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    @ texan fan.

    As a person who could give a crap about either team, romo is a much better QB than shaub.
    Which is why Romo was T.O.'s ?

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    Which is why Romo was T.O.'s ?
    Like shaub is the AFC south's ? Kinda like that?

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    Bump.

    So two years later where are we at on this? It's still close to a wash IMO. Last year was a bit of a throw away as Romo was hurt and Schaub had absolutely no help on the other side of the ball. Both have already let games get away from them they should have won this year.

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    Schaub > Romo

    lol romocoaster

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    I put them both in the category of up-and-down, good-but-not-elite, 2nd tier QBs who need to have a great team around them to win a SuperBowl. I have Eli and Big Ben in the same class.

    The only elite QBs are Brady, Payton (though if he ever plays again, it's unlikely he'll back to that kind of form), Brees, Rodgers.

    Rivers is in the same boat as Romo for being a stat monster who has never been able to win the big games when they count.

    Because of Romo's TWO epic meltdowns in the first four games, I think this season has become pivotal for him. If he doesn't lead a deep playoff run, those Jet and Lions games will define his career. If he rebounds with a good playoff run, (not saying he will, just saying he has to), then they'll just be considered bumps on the road to glory (Payton delt with the same criticism until he finally got past the Pats).

    Schaub is great stat monster regular season QB so far, because his teams have never been in a position to play a big game. I think this season is going to change that, and we'll get to see what Schaub can do in the clutch.

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    I put them both in the category of up-and-down, good-but-not-elite, 2nd tier QBs who need to have a great team around them to win a SuperBowl. I have Eli and Big Ben in the same class.

    The only elite QBs are Brady, Payton (though if he ever plays again, it's unlikely he'll back to that kind of form), Brees, Rodgers.

    Rivers is in the same boat as Romo for being a stat monster who has never been able to win the big games when they count.

    Because of Romo's TWO epic meltdowns in the first four games, I think this season has become pivotal for him. If he doesn't lead a deep playoff run, those Jet and Lions games will define his career. If he rebounds with a good playoff run, (not saying he will, just saying he has to), then they'll just be considered bumps on the road to glory (Payton delt with the same criticism until he finally got past the Pats).

    Schaub is great stat monster regular season QB so far, because his teams have never been in a position to play a big game. I think this season is going to change that, and we'll get to see what Schaub can do in the clutch.
    Good post. Pretty well sums up my thoughts on it. If the team can stay healthy Schaub has no excuse to fail. The defense is coming around and as we saw against Pittsburgh Arian Foster is still Arian Foster. With the Colts out of the way they should have no problem winning the division. He will get his chance to tip the scale his way in the debate. We'll see if he capitalizes.

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    I like the Texans (though I'm a Cows fan first), but Wade as DC worries me big time. I like the front 7 talent of the Texans a lot, but I would be very concerned with Wade calling plays. What we saw in Dallas is that the game had kind of passed him by a little bit. But, maybe without the responsibilities of being HC he will be better as a DC.

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    scott wins in december can not win in playoffs
    romo can not win in dec

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    scott wins in december can not win in playoffs
    romo can not win in dec
    I have no clue WTF you just said.

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    Schaub with his first choke job today. But it's the beginning of October, he'll rebound.

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    I have no clue WTF you just said.
    This is the typical response to a ducks post.
    Schaub with his first choke job today. But it's the beginning of October, he'll rebound.
    I don't know. He's got a lot of proving to do to convince me.

    At the end of the day I think it's going to have to be a situation where Schaub is not depended on to win games. The defense is going to have to get good enough to allow him to do what he did against Pittsburgh. Be efficient...take what's given and capitalize on the other team's mistakes.

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    It only feels like he's the worst QB in history because you're a Texans fan. Game winning drives like that are not always high %, and I the defense is going to prevail sometimes. A stats-based website had a breakdown of QB win %s in games where their team was tied or trailing by less than 7 points in the 4th Q.

    Aaron Rodgers, who most (including me) consider elite only had a .283 win %. Rivers was around .350 and Romo, believe it or not, was a .375.

    Don't be too hard on Schaub.

    Of course, maybe I'm just saying this because I'm an engrained Romo Sympathizer so Matt today pales in comparison

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