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  1. #176
    I Make Love To Pressure MR.SILVER&BLack's Avatar
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    Kobe won an MVP without an All-Star or All-NBA teammate, and led his team to the Finals aswell
    Kobes 1st round exits and completly missing the playoffs till Gasol showed up.

  2. #177
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    Duncan has always had either a DROB, Bowen, Manu, Parker on his team every season

    Jordan never even had a winning season till Pippen showed up

  3. #178
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    Kobes 1st round exits and completly missing the playoffs till Gasol showed up.
    whats your point

  4. #179
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    Nobody makes the playoffs with those rosters

  5. #180
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Kobes 1st round exits and completly missing the playoffs till Gasol showed up.
    Though Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him and you started porkin' your mother.

  6. #181
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    Duncan still won a ring, mvp, & finals MVP with nothing but role players. kobe couldnt . thats my point.

  7. #182
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    Though Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him and you started porkin' my mother.
    guess they were made for each other because kobe would still be trying to get passed nash to this day.

    i have been itching down their all day. does your mom even shower?

  8. #183
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    i have been itching down their all day.
    Your mother.

  9. #184
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Duncan still won a ring, mvp, & finals MVP with nothing but role players. kobe couldnt . thats my point.
    & the bag is still Kobe's fart catcher at 5-4.

  10. #185
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    Duncan still won a ring, mvp, & finals MVP with nothing but role players. kobe couldnt . thats my point.
    DRob, Manu, and Parker are role players?

    and that doesnt make him better

  11. #186
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    DRob, Manu, and Parker are role players?

    and that doesnt make him better
    in 02-04. yes. manu & parker didnt enter the NBA at the level they play today.

    winning alone makes you worse than somone who couldnt do on his own. makes total sense.

  12. #187
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    your to much of an idiot to understand that MVP has to do with the TEAM aswell
    No dumbass, it's not "Most Valuable Players" it's "Most Valuable Player". It's an individual award, not shared with the team. Every Finals has a winner, and every winner has an MVP, but the MVP is an individual.

    Even novice basketball fans know this.

  13. #188
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    No dumbass, it's not "Most Valuable Players" it's "Most Valuable Player". It's an individual award, not shared with the team. Every Finals has a winner, and every winner has an MVP, but the MVP is an individual.

    Even novice basketball fans know this.
    dont you know the lakerfan logic? an NBA championship is an indavidual award & and MVP is a team award. it just makes total sense.

  14. #189
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    No dumbass, it's not "Most Valuable Players" it's "Most Valuable Player". It's an individual award, not shared with the team. Every Finals has a winner, and every winner has an MVP, but the MVP is an individual.

    Even novice basketball fans know this.
    oh man your an idiot

    Your team has to win atleast 50-60 games to win MVP

  15. #190
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    in 02-04. yes. manu & parker didnt enter the NBA at the level they play today.

    winning alone makes you worse than somone who couldnt do on his own. makes total sense.
    2002-03
    Parker - 15.5 PPG, 5.3 APG on 46 FG% (33.8 MPG)

    Kobe never had a Point Guard that good, except in his rookie year when he was 18.

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    Can you read... lets sound it out.ih-fish-uhn-see

    and 2 MVPs

  17. #192
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    Can you read... lets sound it out.ih-fish-uhn-see

    and 2 MVPs
    Career TS%
    Kobe - .556
    Duncan - .552

  18. #193
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    Parker - 15.5 PPG, 5.3 APG on 46 FG% (33.8 MPG)

    Kobe never had a Point Guard that good, except in his rookie year when he was 18.
    Yeah, Kobe only had the most dominant center to ever play.

    Then he got an all-star big man handed to his team for free.

  19. #194
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    Yeah, Kobe only had the most dominant center to ever play.

    Then he got an all-star big man handed to his team for free.
    u mad?

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    If mvp is a team award, as our resident re kobe nutrider is claiming, why does the player get to keep it? Why doesn't the team get it, for having the most valuable player on it? They way teams get "other" team awards, like championships.

  21. #196
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    Then he got an all-star big man
    Though Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him in.

  22. #197
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    If mvp is a team award, as our resident re kobe nutrider is claiming, why does the player get to keep it? Why doesn't the team get it, for having the most valuable player on it? They way teams get "other" team awards, like championships.
    *facepalm*

    You cant win MVP with your team only winning 40 games, you have to be on a good team that gets 50-60 wins atleast

  23. #198
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    Dont forget about David Robinson and Bruce Bowen
    Robinson only played till 2003. Even before that he was past his prime.

    Bruce played for four different teams before the Spurs and no one wanted him.

  24. #199
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    Robinson only played till 2003. Even before that he was past his prime.

    Bruce played for four different teams before the Spurs and no one wanted him.
    Bruce Bowen

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