Have I told y'all...

[Trainwreck2100]

but she's a celebrity. She's a celebrity? Is she a celebrity? Anyway so obviously she speaks for an entire group of people.

[Yonivore]

but she's a celebrity. She's a celebrity? Is she a celebrity? Anyway so obviously she speaks for an entire group of people.

Okay, so how does it make sense -- to you -- that conservatives wouldn't support Obama, because they're racists but, will support Cain?

That's the question.

Many -- including Barack Obama, during the campaign -- suggested there was a racist element to conservative opposition to his candidacy and presidency; so, If conservatives are racists it seems, to me, they'd be loathe to support Herman Cain. Yet, that's not the case.

Inquiring minds want to know.

And, Janeane Garafalo isn't the only one. Just the most readily accessible story.

[Winehole23]

The venerable many suggested right next to the neatly trimmed mustache of the most readily accessible story. Your fake concern is touching to us all, Yoni...

[Yonivore]

The venerable many suggested right next to the neatly trimmed mustache of the most readily accessible story. Your fake concern is touching to us all, Yoni...

Okay, I'll remove Janeane Garafalo; she was merely illustrative, anyway.

1) Did not a considerable number of those on the left, Barack Obama included, infer that much of the opposition to his presidency and candidacy was due to his race? Yes or no?

2) What explains those same racists now supporting a black candidate in their own party or, that is more closely aligned with their own ideology?

I think it's explained by recognizing race was never a factor in either case.

[Winehole23]

1) Did not a considerable number of those on the left, Barack Obama included, infer that much of the opposition to his presidency and candidacy was due to his race? Yes or no?

Yes. Do you believe in guilt by association?

2) What explains those same racists now supporting a black candidate in their own party or, that is more closely aligned with their own ideology?...

I do not have a theory of it. Maybe our country is beginning to grow up a little, maybe not. I do not feel at all certain of any progress made in this area to date or very sanguine about the future.

...I think it's explained by recognizing race was never a factor in either case.

Not only is the GOP not racist, race has never been an issue with the GOP -- not until it was forced on them by goody-two-shoes libs and African-American agitators. Damn racist libs.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Okay, so how does it make sense -- to you -- that conservatives wouldn't support Obama, because they're racists but, will support Cain?

That's the question.

Many -- including Barack Obama, during the campaign -- suggested there was a racist element to conservative opposition to his candidacy and presidency; so, If conservatives are racists it seems, to me, they'd be loathe to support Herman Cain. Yet, that's not the case.

Inquiring minds want to know.

And, Janeane Garafalo isn't the only one. Just the most readily accessible story.

How much you want to bet that Cain does not get the nomination? I will never post on this forum again if he gets the GOP nomination if you agree to the same terms if he does not.

[Oh, Gee!!]

funny that yoni keeps calling himself "Cracker." Cracker is a name that was used by both black slaves and white plantation owners given to the white managers/overseers of black slaves in the field. They were called crackers because they would crack the whip on slaves to keep them in line. I guess Yoni sees himself this way.

[Th'Pusher]

Okay, I'll remove Janeane Garafalo; she was merely illustrative, anyway.

1) Did not a considerable number of those on the left, Barack Obama included, infer that much of the opposition to his presidency and candidacy was due to his race? Yes or no?

2) What explains those same racists now supporting a black candidate in their own party or, that is more closely aligned with their own ideology?

I think it's explained by recognizing race was never a factor in either case.

In the latest poll he only had 18% of the overall likely voters. That still leaves 82% potential racists.

[ChumpDumper]

funny that yoni keeps calling himself "Cracker." Cracker is a name that was used by both black slaves and white plantation owners given to the white managers/overseers of black slaves in the field. They were called crackers because they would crack the whip on slaves to keep them in line. I guess Yoni sees himself this way.

He's very much into iden y politics.

[Oh, Gee!!]

maybe yoni thinks endorsing cain will be considered payment towards the reperations his family must owe.

[Winehole23]

Some Floridians use the word without apology to social graces and a bit more fiercely against them, when pressed.

I didn't take it amiss when when my sweetie's grandma called herself a Florida cracker. I don't think it had anything to do with fantasizing about being a slavedriver. More like regional pride it seemed to me.

[Oh, Gee!!]

you won't get to actually own Cain if he's elected, Yoni.

[Winehole23]

Western Florida is weird though.

[ElNono]

you won't get to actually own Cain if he's elected, Yoni.

[Yonivore]

funny that yoni keeps calling himself "Cracker." Cracker is a name that was used by both black slaves and white plantation owners given to the white managers/overseers of black slaves in the field. They were called crackers because they would crack the whip on slaves to keep them in line. I guess Yoni sees himself this way.

Well, to set you straight, I'm using it in the contemporary sense as a term of denigration, generally directed at whites, by blacks.

Glad to clarify.

[Yonivore]

Yes. Do you believe in guilt by association?

Not when it's by association of the fringes of any group. No.

Sit in a Preacher's church for 20 years. Yes.

Launch your political career in the home of a terrorist. Yes.

Identify a communist as a father figure in your autobiography. Yes.

Have a few nuts show up at your gatherings and make jackasses of themselves. No.

I do not have a theory of it. Maybe our country is beginning to grow up a little, maybe not. I do not feel at all certain of any progress made in this area to date or very sanguine about the future.

That much progress since 2008?

Why would racists support Clarence Thomas? Condoleezza Rice? , Colin Powell -- to a point? Countless other prominent conservatives that just happen to be black? Why would we? Why wouldn't we run them off? Why are they not run off? Why do they not feel any racism from their ideological peers?

I'm pretty flummoxed, to be honest with you.

Not only is the GOP not racist, race has never been an issue with the GOP -- not until it was forced on them by goody-two-shoes libs and African-American agitators. Damn racist libs.

I know you're being sarcastic but, that's pretty much the issue, in a nuts . If you weren't being a smart ass, nice succinct explanation.

Democrats and liberals have had considerable success painting the party that actually ensured racial civil rights, over the years and, as Herman Cain, has pointed out; have successfully "brainwashed" the vast majority of blacks into believing Democrat - Good (even though their most senior member being a former Grand Kleagle of the Klu Klux Klan) and Republicans - Bad; even though it was Republicans that got the Civil Rights Bill of 1964 passed and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 passed.

But, it's not your fault, Even Al Sharpton can get the history straight.

Al Sharpton Gets Civil Rights History Wrong

MSNBC host Rev. Al Sharpton has made it clear he is one of those people Cain was talking about. Sharpton claimed on his show Friday night that democrats supported the Civil Rights act of 1964, problem is, more republicans supported the bill than democrats. The Klu Klux Klan was also founded by democrats and democrats threw Martin Luther King Jr. in jail.

Media Research Center's Noel Sheppard explains:

The House version of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by only 61 percent of that Chamber's Democrats versus 80 percent of the Republicans.

More importantly, it was Republicans that ended a Democrat filibuster preventing a vote on this bill in the Senate. 82 percent of Republicans voted for cloture versus 66 percent of Democrats.

In the final Senate vote on the Act, 82 percent of Republicans voted "Aye" versus 69 percent of Democrats.

The same is true for the Voting Rights Act of 1965 when 94 percent of Senate Republicans voted in favor of the bill versus 73 percent of Democrats. The final vote on the House's version was even more stark as only one Senate Republican voted against it compared to seventeen Democrats.

In the House, 82 percent of Republicans supported the bill versus 78 percent of Democrats.

You want to know why an overwhelming number of blacks believe conservatives are racist?

Because, when they actually won racial equality, thanks to Republicans; the Democrats immediately set about their Great Society nonsense that en bered trillion of dollars that would eventually be doled out to -- among other Democrat cons uencies -- racial minorities. Then, when it became apparent these programs were unsustainable, Conservatives were labeled bigots and racists for wanting to enact welfare reform.

Also, once they achieved racial equality, that wasn't good enough. Race baiters like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton demanded -- and Democrats concurred because they like the voting bloc it represented -- preferential treatment, such as Affirmative Action.

That was enacted in the government but, again, that wasn't good enough so, they expanded it to the private sector and Jesse Jackson set up a pretty good business by extorting racial quotas out of some of the largest corporations in America by threatening to paint them as a racist company if they didn't capitulate and, while they're at it, throw a few million at my sham of an organization.

Every time Conservatives have tried to reign in the inequality and racism of such programs; they're called racists.

Now, that's what Herman Cain believes and that's what I believe about blacks being brainwashed.

They are told -- repeatedly -- that Republicans want to throw them back into slavery and disenfranchise them when all Republicans want to do is make them play by the same rules as everyone else.

There's your liberal racism. But, alas, it appears -- to me and Herman Cain, anyway -- that many blacks up waking up to the scam. Blacks have penetrated every area of society from business, to finance, to politics, to academia. And, now, with a black President; there isn't any position, job, or benefit that isn't and hasn't been available to a black person.

It's pretty goddamned hard to continue screaming racism when you can look at Wall Street, Capitol Hill, The White House, The Supreme Court, the Military, etc... and see successful, prominent black people.

I think the days of race mongers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are on the wane. And, I also think the days of Democrats being able to brainwash and/or scare blacks into voting for them are also coming to an end. But, that's just me.

[Yonivore]

How much you want to bet that Cain does not get the nomination? I will never post on this forum again if he gets the GOP nomination if you agree to the same terms if he does not.

I think it's still a long shot. But, at this point in the Democrat campaigns of 2007, I would have never guessed Hillary wouldn't have been the nominee.

Stranger things have happened. So, I'll continue my support until it's no longer needed.

Regardless, I'm voting for whatever Republican is put on the ticket opposite Barack Obama. My preference would be that it's Herman Cain but, I'll hold my nose and vote for Mitt Romney, if I have to.

And, frankly, I don't care if you never post her again or decide to stick around. that's the beauty of this place, I can ignore you or engage you.

[ElNono]

Regardless, I'm voting for whatever Republican is put on the ticket opposite Barack Obama. My preference would be that it's Herman Cain but, I'll hold my nose and vote for Mitt Romney, if I have to.

Go team!

Like that wasn't clear

[Winehole23]

I'm pretty flummoxed, to be honest with you.

Clear from the beginning, but thanks for emphasizing that.

I know you're being sarcastic but, that's pretty much the issue, in a nuts . If you weren't being a smart ass, nice succinct explanation.

Thanks for authenticating the impersonation and continuing to make my point for me. You've been more than generous with your own impressions.

It's pretty goddamned hard to continue screaming racism when you can look at Wall Street, Capitol Hill, The White House, The Supreme Court, the Military, etc... and see successful, prominent black people.

lol

Is it hard for you to acknowledge that bigotry still exists?

I think the days of race mongers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are on the wane. And, I also think the days of Democrats being able to brainwash and/or scare blacks into voting for them are also coming to an end. But, that's just me.

More predictions.

[Yonivore]

Is it hard for you to acknowledge that bigotry still exists?

Absolutely it exists.

Al Sharpton is a bigot.

The fact is, the only two kinds of bigotry having any impact on society, today, is the soft bigotry of low expectations and the bigotry of leftist race mongers against Conservatives (of any race, black included).

More predictions.

Please sleep.

I notice you skipped much of my post. What of Al Sharpton's mischaracterization of history?

What of Affirmative Action being racist?

What of The Rainbow Coalition being an extortion racket?

What of the Great Society being a Democrat vehicle to enslave the poor and racial minorities on the liberal plantation?

I made those charges and note, you didn't answer.

[Winehole23]

Sharpton and Jackson are how old? lol at your sagely cracker ass predicting their imminent demise.

[Winehole23]

I'm not taking up a shield for Sharpton. How am I responsible for him, Yoni?

You're derailing your own thread, dude.

(shrugs)

[ChumpDumper]

lol yoni completely ignored the party schism cause by the civil rights movement.

He's a tired piece of disingenuous , but that's yoni for you.

and lol Sharpton and Garafalo. Nobody listens to these people except "conservatives."

[Cry Havoc]

How much you want to bet that Cain does not get the nomination? I will never post on this forum again if he gets the GOP nomination if you agree to the same terms if he does not.

I already offered him the exact same terms. He ignored the post, as he's doing now. lol

[Yonivore]

I already offered him the exact same terms. He ignored the post, as he's doing now. lol

I didn't see your post and I didn't ignore Fuzzy's

I'll tell you both; again.

I could care less if you stay or go.