Who are the Apostles?

[Cry Havoc]

I'm honored to stand in company with the Clairemont Ins ute.

The Myth of the Racist Republicans


A good read, I recommend it.

And lookee here, the very first page of the wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claremont_Ins ute

"The Claremont Ins ute is a conservative think tank based in Claremont, California."

Yep. No bias there.

[Yonivore]

And lookee here, the very first page of the wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claremont_Ins ute

"The Claremont Ins ute is a conservative think tank based in Claremont, California."

Yep. No bias there.

That's a refutation of the article?

[ElNono]

That's a refutation of the article?

Might as well just ask everybody to take your word for it.

[ElNono]

I wonder if yoni read what he linked:

Now to be sure, the GOP had a Southern strategy. Willing to work with, rather than against, the grain of Southern opinion, local Republicans ran some segregationist candidates in the 1960s. And from the 1950s on, virtually all national and local GOP candidates tried to craft policies and messages that could compete for the votes of some pretty unsavory characters. This record is incontestable.

[ElNono]

dp

[ChuckD]

Obviously, the perception exists but, yes, I disagree the so-called Southern Strategy played a role in the shift of voting patterns, beyond the extent demagogued by Democrats claiming there was a Southern strategy.

While Democrats may like voting on the basis of race, most Republicans vote on the basis of prosperity and, it's been demonstrated the shift, to the Republican party came more from prosperous Southern whites than it did from disaffected racists -- beginning in the 50's.

Did racists shift to the Republican Party? Probably the rich ones did. But, the Democrat Party was somehow successful - and kudoes to them - to label Republicans as racist even though they, Democrats, were the true party of the racists. If the Southern Strategy had been a concerted effort on the part of the Republicans, and not just some figment of Democrats based on some anecdotal or cir stantial evidence, Robert Byrd would have been a Republican.

Ken Mehlman apparently apologizes for an imaginary strategy...

[ChuckD]

That's a refutation of the article?

You bashed a NEUTRAL rated Wikipedia article, wit. Apparently, dislike of a source IS a refutation, at least to you.

[ElNono]

So.... who are the apostles?

[Yonivore]

You bashed a NEUTRAL rated Wikipedia article, wit. Apparently, dislike of a source IS a refutation, at least to you.

It wasn't rated "neutral" it was flagged for not being "neutral." And, The Clairmont Ins ute isn't Wikipedia. They're also not the only place that's arrived at that same conclusion about the "Southern Strategy" canard.

[ElNono]

lol GOP members apologizing for the Southern Strategy and yoni apologizing for them

[Cry Havoc]

It wasn't rated "neutral" it was flagged for not being "neutral." And, The Clairmont Ins ute isn't Wikipedia. They're also not the only place that's arrived at that same conclusion about the "Southern Strategy" canard.

Yeah, the Pink Hat society says the same thing! So it must be true! After all, conservative think tanks have no reason to paint their party in the best possible light!



How do you go through life being so intellectually dishonest?

[Yonivore]

Yeah, the Pink Hat society says the same thing! So it must be true! After all, conservative think tanks have no reason to paint their party in the best possible light!



How do you go through life being so intellectually dishonest?

In the New York Times (I know, the great bastion of Conservativism) article I posted, there two academics that arrived at the same conclusion as the Clairmont Ins ute.

Richard Johnston of the University of Pennsylvania and Byron Shafer of the University of Wisconsin argue that the shift in the South from Democratic to Republican was overwhelmingly a question not of race but of economic growth.

And, they and the Clairmont Ins ute aren't the only people putting the lie to the whole "Southern Strategy" nonsense.

[ChuckD]

It wasn't rated "neutral" it was flagged for not being "neutral." And, The Clairmont Ins ute isn't Wikipedia. They're also not the only place that's arrived at that same conclusion about the "Southern Strategy" canard.

Except that Ken Mehlman didn't think it was a canard. Nice selective reply. Glossed right over that post with the link to the apology by the RNC chairman for the race baiting Southern Stragegy that he admits the GOP uses.

[Yonivore]

Except that Ken Mehlman didn't think it was a canard. Nice selective reply. Glossed right over that post with the link to the apology by the RNC chairman for the race baiting Southern Stragegy that he admits the GOP uses.

Oh well, Ken Mehlman is welcome to be wrong. And Condaleezza Rice apologized for a lie that didn't happen.

, President Obama wanted to apologize to Japan for us ending a war they started.

Your point? Ken Mehlman is wrong.

[ElNono]

Michael Steele is wrong too. Actually, when it comes to yoni, everybody else is wrong...

[admiralsnackbar]

Michael Steele is wrong too. Actually, when it comes to yoni, everybody else is wrong...

And racist.