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    ...casus belli to attack Iran...

    The fast and furious plot to occupy Iran
    Tehran would have to be terminally foolish to try to snuff out an ambassador on US soil, author says.


    No one ever lost money betting on the dull predictability of the US government. Just as Occupy Wall Street is firing imaginations all across the spectrum - piercing the noxious revolving door between government and casino capitalism - Washington brought us all down to earth, sensationally advertising an Iranian Mexican cartel terror plot straight out of The Fast and the Furious movie franchise. The potential victim: Adel al-Jubeir, the ambassador in the US of that lovely counter-revolutionary Mecca, Saudi Arabia.

    FBI Director Robert Mueller insisted the Iran-masterminded terror plot “reads like the pages of a Hollywood script”. It does. And quite a sloppy script at that. Fast and Furious duo Paul Walker/Vin Diesel wouldn’t be caught dead near it.

    The good guys in this Washington production are the FBI and the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA). In the words of Attorney General Eric Holder, they uncovered “a deadly plot directed by factions of the Iranian government to assassinate a foreign Ambassador on US soil with explosives”.

    Holder added that the bombing of the Saudi embassy in Washington was also part of the plan. Subsequent spinning amplified that to planned bombings of the Israeli embassy in Washington, as well as the Saudi and Israeli embassies in Buenos Aires.

    The Justice Department has peddled quite a murky story - Operation Red Coalition (no, you can’t make that stuff up) - centered on one Manssor Arbabsiar, a 56-year-old holding both Iranian and US passports and an Iran-based co-conspirator, Gholam Shakuri, an alleged member of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps's (IRGC) Quds Force.

    Arbabsiar allegedly had a series of encounters in Mexico with a DEA mole posing as a Mexican drug cartel heavy weight. The Iranian-American seems to have been convinced that the mole was a member of the hardcore Zetas Mexican cartel, and reportedly bragged he was being “directed by high-ranking members of the Iranian government”, including a cousin who was “a member of the Iranian army but did not wear a uniform”.

    On top of it, he told the DEA mole that his Iranian government buddies could come up with “tons of opium” for the Mexican cartel (an Afghan connection, perhaps). Then they discussed a “number of violent missions" complete with Arbabsiar bragging about bombing a packed Washington restaurant used by the Saudi ambassador.

    Holder characterised the whole thing as a $1.5m “murder-for-hire” plan. Arbabsiar was arrested only a few days ago, on September 29, at JFK airport in New York. He allegedly confessed, according to the Justice Department. Shakuri for his part is still at large.

    Holder was adamant: “The United States is committed to hold Iran accountable for its actions.” Yet he stopped short of stating the plot was approved by the highest levels of the Iranian government. So what next? War? Hold your horses; Washington should first think about asking the Chinese if they’re willing to foot the bill (the answer will be no.)

    Predictably, the proverbial torrent of US “officials” came out with guns blazing, spinning everything in sight. An alarmed Pentagon will be increasing surveillance over the Quds Force and “Iran’s actions” in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf. Former US ambassadors stated that, “it’s an attack on the United States to attack this ambassador”. Washington is about to impose even more sanctions against Iran; and Washington is urgently taking the matter to the UN Security Council.

    What next? A R2P (“responsibility to protect”) resolution ordering NATO to protect every House of Saud minion across the world by bombing Iran into regime change?

    Ali Akbar Javanfekr, a spokesman for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, at least introduced a little bit of common sense. “I think the US government is busy fabricating a new scenario and history has shown both the US government and the CIA have a lot of experience in fabricating these scenarios… I think their goal is to reach the American public. They want to take the public’s mind off the serious domestic problems they’re facing these days and scare them with fabricated problems outside the country.” Iran has not even established yet that these two characters are actually Iranian citizens.

    The Iranian government - which prides itself on a logical approach to diplomacy - would have to have been inoculated with a terminal Stuxnet-style foolishness virus to behave in such a counterproductive manner, by targeting a high-profile foreign policy adviser to King Abdullah on American soil. The official Iranian news agency IRNA described the plot as “America’s new propaganda scenario” against Iran.

    As for the Washington mantra that “Iran has been insinuating itself into many of the struggles in the Middle East”, that’s undiluted Saudi propaganda. In fact it’s the House of Saud who’s been conducting the fierce counter-revolution that has smashed any possibility of an Arab Spring in the Persian Gulf - from the invasion and repression of Bahrain to the rash pre-emption of protests inside Saudi Arabia’s Shia-dominated eastern provinces.

    The whole thing smells like a flimsy pretext for a casus belli. The timing of the announcement couldn’t be more su ious. White House national security advisor Thomas E. Donilon briefed King Abdullah of the plot no less than two weeks ago, in a three-hour meeting in Riyadh. Meanwhile the US government has been carrying not plots, but targeted assassinations of US citizens, as in the Anwar al-Awlaki case.

    So why now? Holder is caught in yet another scandal - on whether he told lies regarding Operation Fast and Furious (no, you can’t make this stuff up), a federal gun sting through which scores of US weapons ended up in the hands of - here they come again - Mexican drug cartels.

    So how to bury Fast and Furious, the economic abyss, the 10 years of war in Afghanistan, the increasing allure of Occupy Wall Street - not to mention the Saudi role in smashing the spirit of the Arab Spring? By uncovering a good ol’ al-Qaeda style plot on US soil, on top of it conducted by “evil” Iran. Al-Qaeda and Tehran sharing top billing; not even Cheney and Rumsfeld in their heyday could come up with something like this. Long live GWOT (the global war on terror). And long live the neo-con spirit; remember, real men go to Tehran - and the road starts now.

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    ....what is Saudi Arabia planning in Iran?

    The Saudi Arabian government has issued a menacing warning to Iran that it will have to "pay the price" for the alleged plot to hire a Mexican drugs cartel to assassinate its ambassador in Washington.

    The threat from the Saudis came as the Obama administration resisted calls from within the US, mainly from the conservative right, to retaliate against Iran with military action
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    But Iran denied it was behind the alleged plot, with officials claiming Washington had fabricated the story to divide Sunni Muslims – the dominant group in Saudi – and Shias, the dominant group in Iran. Tehran's leadership claimed Barack Obama was using the story to divert attention from the Occupy Wall Street protesters.

    The foreign ministry summoned the Swiss ambassador, who handles US interests in the country, to condemn what it called "baseless claims" and warn "against the repe ion of such politically motivated allegations."
    guardian

    this could get interesting...

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    bloodthirsty neocon warmongers, US and UK, are loving it, they want back in to get at Iran's oil. like until Khomeini's revolution.

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    Well, Obama's "open-hand" approach to Iran is sure paying dividends, isn't it?

    It was reported the plot was discovered in its early stages. Hmmm...one wonders if any of the Bush-era surveillance or intelligence techniques, Obama demagogued against, were used in the discovery. Also, I can remember being mocked, in this forum, when I suggested terrorists were coming across our porous borders and that Iran would willingly work with anyone - apparently Mexican cartels, as well - in trying to kill Americans and harm our interests.

    Unfortunately, I've got no faith in this emasculated girly-man we have as President. Hopefully, Mic e will tell him to man up and do something about Iran.

    Maybe Israel will 'em up.

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    yoni is a .

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    lol reckoning

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    This s getting real.


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    yoni is mad at Israel because they haven't leveled Iran yet

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    LOL at yoni using the epithet 'girly-man'.

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    Well, Obama's "open-hand" approach to Iran is sure paying dividends, isn't it?

    It was reported the plot was discovered in its early stages. Hmmm...one wonders if any of the Bush-era surveillance or intelligence techniques, Obama demagogued against, were used in the discovery. Also, I can remember being mocked, in this forum, when I suggested terrorists were coming across our porous borders and that Iran would willingly work with anyone - apparently Mexican cartels, as well - in trying to kill Americans and harm our interests.

    Unfortunately, I've got no faith in this emasculated girly-man we have as President. Hopefully, Mic e will tell him to man up and do something about Iran.

    Maybe Israel will 'em up.
    yes, Bush's anti terror network of DEA agents hearing things out of luck is what found this plot out.

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    Well, Obama's "open-hand" approach to Iran is sure paying dividends, isn't it?

    It was reported the plot was discovered in its early stages. Hmmm...one wonders if any of the Bush-era surveillance or intelligence techniques, Obama demagogued against, were used in the discovery. Also, I can remember being mocked, in this forum, when I suggested terrorists were coming across our porous borders and that Iran would willingly work with anyone - apparently Mexican cartels, as well - in trying to kill Americans and harm our interests.

    Unfortunately, I've got no faith in this emasculated girly-man we have as President. Hopefully, Mic e will tell him to man up and do something about Iran.

    Maybe Israel will 'em up.
    let's take a look:
    Obama killed Bin Laden
    Obama killed Alquaida #2
    Obama killed Alquaida #3
    Obama dismantled the plot to kill Saudi Ambassador

    meanwhile a few years back:
    Bush tried to eat a pretzel and ended up in the ER


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    The “very scary” Iranian Terror plot (Glenn Greenwald)

    The ironies here are so self-evident it’s hard to work up the energy to point them out. Outside of Pentagon reporters, Washington Post Editorial Page Editors, and Brookings “scholars,” is there a person on the planet anywhere who can listen with a straight face as drone-addicted U.S. Government officials righteously condemn the evil, illegal act of entering another country to commit an assassination? Does anyone, for instance, have any interest in finding out who is responsible for the spate of serial murders aimed at Iran’s nuclear scientists? Wouldn’t people professing to be so outraged by the idea of entering another country to engage in assassination be eager to get to the bottom of that?

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    Then there’s the War on Terror irony: our Hated Enemy here (Iran) is a country which had absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 attack. Meanwhile, our close ally, the victim on whose behalf we are so outraged (Saudi Arabia), is not only one of the most tyrannical and aggressive regimes on the planet, but produced 15 of the 19 hijackers and had extensive and still-unknown involvement in that attack. If the U.S. is so deeply offended by the involvement of a foreign government in an attack on U.S. soil, it would be looking first to its close friend Saudi Arabia, where “elements of the government” were likely involved in an actual plot rather than a joke of a plot.
    Salon

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    Iran! Killing Americans since 1979; being defended by the left just as long.

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    yoni is mad at Israel because they haven't leveled Iran yet
    And you're mad at Hamas because they haven't leveled Israel yet, right?

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    The UCA-financed stink tanks strongly support enriching the MIC and wasting more poor US kids lives'.

    Right-Wing Think Tankers Use Alleged Assassination Plot To Push For War With Iran

    Take strong measures to respond. The U.S. is fully within it rights to conduct a proportional military response against suitable, feasible, and acceptable targets in Iran. (In many ways, the situation is similar to military operations conducted against al-Qaeda in Pakistan.) The Iranian government knows full well that the Iran Qods Force is a terrorist group that has provided material support to the Taliban and other groups. The Tehran government has not restrained this organization and is responsible for its conduct.

    The terror plot was no rogue action. Obama may hold an olive branch, but the White House must recognize the Iranian regime’s fist holds only blood.

    The time for talk has ended.

    What will be a surprise to the Iranian regime is if the United States, in the face of a brazen attack on its capital, finally responds decisively.



    http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...war-with-iran/

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    Iran! Killing Americans since 1979; being defended by the left just as long.
    What specifically do you want the US to do about Iran?

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    What specifically do you want the US to do about Iran?
    Probably nuke the country and then nuke the rubble.

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    Unfortunately, I've got no faith in this emasculated girly-man we have as President. Hopefully, Mic e will tell him to man up and do something about Iran.

    Maybe Israel will 'em up.
    Obama assassinates a terrorist, a natural U.S. citizen, bombs a Muslim country with a controversial approach, and you STILL believe he's too scared to take political flak.


    Yoni, get your head out of your ass. Republicans, Democrats.... they're all the same when they're in office. If you stopped treating the right wing as the infallible Catholic church you might realize this.

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    let's take a look:
    Obama killed Bin Laden
    Obama killed Alquaida #2
    Obama killed Alquaida #3
    Obama dismantled the plot to kill Saudi Ambassador

    meanwhile a few years back:
    Bush tried to eat a pretzel and ended up in the ER

    You mean "killed"

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    In this case the US and the Saudi are trumpeting the call to the Security Council about the two dimwits.

    Now it is entirely possible that the $100k+ that was delivered was a plant and that the two Iranian guys are not really involved with Iranian military intelligence but if that was the case why are they machinating the ruse to the other members of the security council who are obviously going to want to look at the evidence.

    i know people are trying to tie the Al-Awlaki thing to this but they are two separate issues. However you view the methods to justify the killing, we had the tacit support of the Yemenese government. This Iran cluster goes to sovereignty and planning attacks in two separate countries.

    At this point its not going to lead to war because the US policy has been "its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission" and that type of escalation and rhetoric comes out fast. No its to be just more stupid sanctions as the evidence is asked for by the other Security Council states.

    Sanctions don't topple totalitarian regimes. If anything they solidify their base. US Foreign policy for the last 50 years has been asinine in that regard.

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    yoni is mad at Israel because they haven't leveled Iran yet
    What do you expect for them to do? What would you do if someone told you, repeatedly, that they were gonna kill you and your family? On top of, none of your neighbors not thinking too highly of you as well. Are you just gonna ignore them and go about your business??? I don't understand how people can ignore the fact that Iran threatens Israel every chance they get. I don't blame them for protecting themselves. Especially when it's pretty unlikely this administration will help them or defend them.

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    We'll never address Iran. Our military is too spread out and depleted. Hopefully we don't abandon our guys out there. I sincerely hope that. Turkey isn't looking too good these days.

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    Just wait til the people of Saudi Arabia start overthrowing their government.

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    What do you expect for them to do? What would you do if someone told you, repeatedly, that they were gonna kill you and your family? On top of, none of your neighbors not thinking too highly of you as well. Are you just gonna ignore them and go about your business??? I don't understand how people can ignore the fact that Iran threatens Israel every chance they get. I don't blame them for protecting themselves. Especially when it's pretty unlikely this administration will help them or defend them.
    Yoni lives in Israel? These types of things happen all over the world all the time. We just happened to create is Israel 65 years ago so were stuck with them.

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    We'll never address Iran. Our military is too spread out and depleted. Hopefully we don't abandon our guys out there. I sincerely hope that. Turkey isn't looking too good these days.
    WTF are you even talking about? Given the region climate they are noticeably economically and politically stable. Additionally as the new guy in NATO they have been very agreeable to our policies and trying to fit in.

    Compare that to Netanyahu's government who plays the game of hide the settlement.

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