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...and we like it too!
I just noticed the le of this thread.
Is the poster suggesting the "Occupy" movement is an extension of the causes of the Arab uprisings?
I'd like to see that connection made.
Typical sit at home baby boomer response.
I'll take the "Occupy" folks seriously when they start lighting themselves on fire.
World Spring, my ass. What these people need is some ing Irish Spring.
I'm pretty sure you'll still be saying that when AK-47 barrel is shoved in your ocular cavity.
Almost every non-redeployed member from my unit from Afghanistan just volunteered for one of these events today. The media also conveniently didn't cover it.
Well, goody for them. What are they protesting?
Haven't you been telling us what they are protesting for a week?
If you don't know, I see no reason for you to be ting your pants 18 hours a day about it.
What do you think, yoni?
4% of American college graduates don't have jobs. Americans can qualify for financial and obtain a degree in any career they want, preferably one that's in high demand.
America sure is unkind.
It's really unkind when you don't cite any sources while lofting about random statistics.
1 in 10 americans don't have a job, and the recommendation is that they get through the nose in debt?
smh
I would if I knew you asked everyone on this board to cite what they say. Otherwise, do what I did and find them yourself.
Go to community college for 2 years, then transfer out to Uni and complete out the degree. I know plenty of people who've done this while ac ulating relatively liitle debt. Do the costs really outweigh the benefits? I mean you don't have to attend Harvard.
for what? there aint no jobs for college grads and there ain't gona be for a few years.
IMO skip college and go work in a factory or something. or try out for pro sports.
And you live out of what while you ac ulate the debt?
The benefits aren't really tangible until there's a job climate that pretty much ensures you're going to be employed when you're done. Again 1 in 10 people capable of working don't have a job right now.
That doesn't even take underemployment into account
you don't have to live out of anything different when you work toward a degree and ac ulate debt than when you weren't. the college is giving you financial aid and you pay it pack post-grad when you have a job. get a degree in something demanded and i'd say the climate is pretty damn good. 4% of college grads without a job. all of my college grad friends got jobs. 1/10 capable of doing work are not working, but how many of those are w/o a degree? which is exactly my point. working toward a degree instead of protesting would make a lot of sense for these people. their propsects of getting a job would signifantly better.
How many? And why at least half of them had a job before the recession?
If the problem would be having a degree, then it would've been a problem in the past too. The problem isn't degree vs non-degree. The problem is that it's cheaper to pay an indian or a chinese, degree or not, to do things. And it isn't just manufacturing or low paying jobs anymore. Even services have been outsourced en-masse. Companies and banks sitting on piles of cash.
Ac ulating debt when you don't have income nor prospect for an income is always a bad idea, IMO. The reason is that you'll eventually going to have to start making payments, and if you can't then you're going to have to hit bankruptcy, and it will take many years to recover.
What you ideally want to do is find a job, any job, AND study. But the situation right now in the job market is very precarious.
What's worse is the clowns in DC (both parties) are fighting over petty bull and doing nothing about it. But when they had to bail out the banks, it was all hands on deck. While I don't think these protesters are really going to get much, if anything, done, I understand where they're coming from.
That's not correct either. That is about 1 in 10 who are looking for work.
i would say degree vs. non degree is a big part of the debate. unless you're mentally re ed or a drug addict, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to get a degree in this country. if manufacturing and other low paying jobs are being moved oversees and govt. isn't going do anything about it, then go to college and get a degree in something that's in high demand. the people who didn't apply for financial aid and go to college in previous years and who leaned on jobs that weren't reliable (i've got an aunt who did this and she's regretting it) are paying for it. jobs have been are and will continue to move out of this country, esp. the ones that don't require any skill. go to college. get a degree. no point in protesting because those job arent coming back like they once were. it might get a little better, but globilization has taken those job from us in many ways. be a part of the 96% of college grads who have a job.
But it isn't a big part of the debate, because those people were employed before. Outsourcing isn't just on low paying jobs. Ask anybody in IT or Communications about Indians (Tata and Co).
When those people started studying, it was a thriving sector.
That 96% number is also baloney:
Look at unemployment for college students (18-29) there: 14%
I'm not saying you shouldn't get a degree. What I'm saying is that studying and working has become quite problematic in this economic climate. If mom and dad is going to give your shelter and food while you study, then you can probably get away with it. Not everybody is in that situation though.
Lol at mingus regurgitating that 4% unemployment rate of college students Bill O'Rielly and fox news have been pumping. Turn that garbage off.
I think Fareed Zakaria quoted that about 4.5% with degrees are unemployed and 11% without are unemployed.
True, but those degrees are about 3-4 years off now aren't they? There isn't an overnight solution to this.
To be fair, Fareed Zakaria quoted a similar number on GPS not long ago. The real problem is with those that don't have degrees.
How many more have quit though?
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