Will MJ let his Championship Bulls get swept by the 2011 Mavs?

[Stalin]

kobe and jordan a wash

you'd be trying to "wash" the memory out of you mind whenever jordan is bullying kobe on the block, and using his smarts to get whatever shot he wants while at the other end he's got kobe in panic mode chucking up fadeaway 22 footers barely drawing iron

the goods right here

kobe and jordan a wash, only lakerfan could come up with something this dumb

[LkrFan]

kobe and jordan a wash

you'd be trying to "wash" the memory out of you mind whenever jordan is bullying kobe on the block, and using his smarts to get whatever shot he wants while at the other end he's got kobe in panic mode chucking up fadeaway 22 footers barely drawing iron

you trolling.

[mavs>spurs]

MJ would eat kobe alive..and that is not trolling..he's stronger, the better athlete, better post game, and the smarter player. Also, as compe ive as Kobe is, MJ was the king of that..he would have taken his game to a whole different level with people making these re ed comparisons..i think it's you who's trolling brah

[LkrFan]

MJ would eat kobe alive..and that is not trolling..he's stronger, the better athlete, better post game, and the smarter player. Also, as compe ive as Kobe is, MJ was the king of that..he would have taken his game to a whole different level with people making these re ed comparisons..i think it's you who's trolling brah

There is NOTHING MJ could do that Kobe cannot. 40pts? Check 50pts? Check. 60pts? Check How bout 80+? (Sorry, I got ahead of myself there ).

Kobe in his prime was every bit as good as MJ. MJ highest average was like 37ppg. Kobe was 35ppg, but against much better compe ion, strong side zones, and all sorts of defensive gimmicks teams come up with to try and deal with him.

Better handles - Kobe
Better jumper - Kobe
Better all around game - Kobe
More skilled - Kobe

Everything else is a wash. Don't take my word though. PJ even says Kobe is on par with MJ. But I say Kobe is better.

The true difference between the 2 of them? ty teammates. MJ would have been a lottery bound player or first round fodder at best playing with the likes of Smush, Kwame, Cook, inconsistent Lamar Odom, Luke Walton, Terrible Brown, 58 year old Brian Grant, etc. , Kobe should get a medal for willing them bas s to the playoffs in the first place. MJ never played with on a stick teammates like that.

MJ's legend grows by the day. *SIGH*

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

There is NOTHING MJ could do that Kobe cannot. 40pts? Check 50pts? Check. 60pts? Check How bout 80+? (Sorry, I got ahead of myself there ).

Kobe in his prime was every bit as good as MJ. MJ highest average was like 37ppg. Kobe was 35ppg, but against much better compe ion, strong side zones, and all sorts of defensive gimmicks teams come up with to try and deal with him.

Better handles - Kobe
Better jumper - Kobe
Better all around game - Kobe
More skilled - Kobe

Everything else is a wash. Don't take my word though. PJ even says Kobe is on par with MJ. But I say Kobe is better.

The true difference between the 2 of them? ty teammates. MJ would have been a lottery bound player or first round fodder at best playing with the likes of Smush, Kwame, Cook, inconsistent Lamar Odom, Luke Walton, Terrible Brown, 58 year old Brian Grant, etc. , Kobe should get a medal for willing them bas s to the playoffs in the first place. MJ never played with on a stick teammates like that.

MJ's legend grows by the day. *SIGH*

nothing says a quality post like a PPG argument right off the back.

yea sure kobe can score 80 points on a horrible raptors team while MJ can set a Playloff record for points in a game against larry bird and the celtics.

does kobe really even have a legendary playoffs shot? people will remember fisher in the playoffs more than kobe.

[mavs>spurs]

nothing says a quality post like a PPG argument right off the back.

yea sure kobe can score 80 points on a horrible raptors team while MJ can set a Playloff record for points in a game against larry bird and the celtics.

does kobe really even have a legendary playoffs shot? people will remember fisher in the playoffs more than kobe.

kobe fan is out of his ing mind

[Koolaid_Man]

There is NOTHING MJ could do that Kobe cannot. 40pts? Check 50pts? Check. 60pts? Check How bout 80+? (Sorry, I got ahead of myself there ).

Kobe in his prime was every bit as good as MJ. MJ highest average was like 37ppg. Kobe was 35ppg, but against much better compe ion, strong side zones, and all sorts of defensive gimmicks teams come up with to try and deal with him.

Better handles - Kobe
Better jumper - Kobe
Better all around game - Kobe
More skilled - Kobe

Everything else is a wash. Don't take my word though. PJ even says Kobe is on par with MJ. But I say Kobe is better.

The true difference between the 2 of them? ty teammates. MJ would have been a lottery bound player or first round fodder at best playing with the likes of Smush, Kwame, Cook, inconsistent Lamar Odom, Luke Walton, Terrible Brown, 58 year old Brian Grant, etc. , Kobe should get a medal for willing them bas s to the playoffs in the first place. MJ never played with on a stick teammates like that.

MJ's legend grows by the day. *SIGH*

excellent post fellow Laker Nation member...

MJ is the last bastion of hope for anti-Laker / Kobe fans everywhere...once he falls they'll have no cover from the Laker / Kobe assault we're bound to unleash on their ass...

First they relied on Shaq...but Kobe made quick work of that one by ringing twice without him...

In parallel with Shaq they also relied on Duncan by saying he was #1 option while Kobe was a #2......what they fail to realize is that a #1 option in San Antonio is dam near a #3 option in LA...the game, stakes, expectations are much higher in LA...and for a FACT indeed (I've previously posted the numbers)..Kobe's stats as the "number 2 guy" is better than Duncan's as the #1 guy in SA...

Finally they have MJ...right now Kobe is threatening the legacy...Kobe will need to go up 7>6 in my book to surpass him...and he is aware of this...and my Nastrodmous ticker says he will...that 8th one though will be his toughest...I have 7 les forecasted with an 8th as a potential doozy...

Timmy isn't even in the debate anymore...

[Stalin]

http://kobebryantisoverrated.webs.co...lasidekick.htm

have you seen this website?

[stretch]

The 2009 squad was the weakest Laker le team ever. No Bynum... not that it would have made a big difference, but more importantly, no bench. Historically, Championship teams have decent to great benches, and the lack of any bench at all is what rose Kobe' stock for me.

No Bynum? WTF are you talking about? Do you even know your own goddamn teams you ing idiot?

They didn't have extreme depth at bench, but it was more than made up for by the versatility of Gasol, Odom, and Kobe. Gasol started at the 4, and could easily slide to the 5 when Bynum was out. Odom generally played at the 3 and could easily slide to the 4 with Gasol out or at the 5. Kobe started at the 2 guard, but if Farmar was having a bad day, he could easily take over PG duties and let Farmar play the 2 which was more natural for Farmar.

Generally in the playoffs, most teams keep it around 7-8 deep for their main rotation players. The Lakers were in the exact same boat. Quit trying to underrate the team just to suck the skin off Kobe's nuts. They had a solid squad that had few weaknesses, and played extremely well together. You can't be a weak le team and win 65 games in a tough Western Conference.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Phil Jackson's teams have rarely ever had deep benches, and it's because he knows a deep bench is overrated and rarely helps in the playoffs. Having a better 9th man than the other team doesn't matter.

[Giuseppe]

GD! Sweet cheeks has returned. I missed ya, darling-boy.

[lefty]

Lakers

[mavs>spurs]

GD! Sweet cheeks has returned. I missed ya, darling-boy.

You know you've got serious mental issues whenever you "miss" people on the internet whom you've never met and have no real life relationship with.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Randy Brown played less than 10 minutes a game in 1996, bringing him up as a key member of the 1996 Bulls is a new low in the Lakerfan attempt to overrate MJ's supporting cast.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

There is NOTHING MJ could do that Kobe cannot.

Except win MVP and finals MVP in the same season.

[Leetonidas]

And defensive player of the year

[Leetonidas]

Or average 30ppg over his career

[Leetonidas]

And he never got swept as the defending champ

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Or average 30ppg over his career

at close to 50% shooting no less

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

or win a championship without a 20 point 10 rebound presence at PF or C

[Leetonidas]

or quit on his team in a closeout game to "make a point"

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

That '96 team had some solid vets to go with their big 3 in Randy Brown (doberman defender), Kukoc, "24 fouls on Shaq" (Edwards, Wennington, Luc Longley, Salley) - after Rodman, as well as one of the best sharp shooters in NBA history: Kerr

So lets go over these "solid vets" Lkrfan felt like mentioning.

John Salley played in a total of 17 regular season games with the Bulls and averaged 5 minutes a game during the playoffs.

James Edwards was 40 years old during the 1996 season. He played in 28 regular season games (at 11 MPG) and had 28 total MINUTES during the playoffs

As mentioned already, Randy Brown played a little under 10 minutes a game during the regular season and once the playoffs started played even less (7 minutes a game). Too say he would have the advantage on 2000 Fisher is pretty in re ed.

The 1996 Bulls were a 7 deep team with some scrub big men they used for spot duty. The 2000 Lakers were by no means a deep team but they weren't any less deep than the 96 Bulls.

[Koolaid_Man]

or quit on his team in a closeout game to "make a point"

hey sweet cheeks check this out...we know how MJ took every game seriously...he lucky though he didn't have to face a prime Kobe or more of this would have happened.

[Leetonidas]

[Killakobe81]

No Bynum? WTF are you talking about? Do you even know your own goddamn teams you ing idiot?

They didn't have extreme depth at bench, but it was more than made up for by the versatility of Gasol, Odom, and Kobe. Gasol started at the 4, and could easily slide to the 5 when Bynum was out. Odom generally played at the 3 and could easily slide to the 4 with Gasol out or at the 5. Kobe started at the 2 guard, but if Farmar was having a bad day, he could easily take over PG duties and let Farmar play the 2 which was more natural for Farmar.

Generally in the playoffs, most teams keep it around 7-8 deep for their main rotation players. The Lakers were in the exact same boat. Quit trying to underrate the team just to suck the skin off Kobe's nuts. They had a solid squad that had few weaknesses, and played extremely well together. You can't be a weak le team and win 65 games in a tough Western Conference.

Agree they were not "weak" compared to recent le teams. I think they beat the Mavs or Heat from last year. And are better than the 2006 Heat.

But compared to the great le teams in history they are not that strong.