That was not a straw man. That was an example of a situation where I think it would be legal for an officer to demand someone leave their home without producing a warrant.
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if everyone thought like you blacks would still be slaves and kids would still be getting killed in Nam
That was not a straw man. That was an example of a situation where I think it would be legal for an officer to demand someone leave their home without producing a warrant.
No but I can do ent a case where a woman was told to go inside her house and was later arrested for filming a traffic stop from her own front yard. There had been talk in the news of racial profiling in that particular town and she was do enting it to show to the news station.
I can do ent another case where a man was filming a traffic stop from deep inside his own garage, the cop comes in his house without a warrant, the guy says you're in my house leave, and the cop doesn't then arrests him for one of those bogus wiretapping charges that have been ruled uncons utional lately especially in illinois.
Both instances are similar in outlandishness to what you were asking, but true nonetheless.
Which shows just how ing dumb you are. You seem to have me confused with your Daddy/Mothers brother. Products like you are why they have laws against incest.
here we go with the name calling
"but your mama is fat"![]()
The question isn't whether or not it's legal to demand someone leave their home.
You originally said anyone who refused to move when a cop told them to is breaking the law. Maybe the cop can legally demand they leave their house, but the person isn't breaking any laws if he chooses to stay in his house.
I am not even attempting to give a blanket pass to ALL cops in ALL situations. Just like other people in other professions there are good and bad ones.
Do some cops over-reach in the heat of the moment? Sure.
hOWEVER, If a cop with a bullhorn tells you to move and you refuse to move, whether right or wrong, you are ASKING to get whacked.
funny how the goal posts move. At first, you're "breaking the law" if you don't move when a cop asks you to. Now, all you're doing is "asking to get whacked" which is something completely different.
You are the one who just called me a racist (without ANY substantiation) and claimed I supported the Vietnam War (which is TOTALLY laughable).
Just leave it alone.
Someone who's job is to "serve and protect" whacking people for doing something that isn't against the law seems a little out of line to me.
There are laws on the book for refusing to follow an officer of the laws directions in a public place. If you are driving and come to a green light but there is a cop standing in the intersection stopping traffic you are breaking the law if you drive through the intersection even though you had a green light. If you are in a crowd and an officer tells you to move and you don't move you are breaking the law and subject to arrest. If you resist or the officer thinks you are resisting you are subject to getting whacked.
It's pretty simple, really.
not really. I said if everyone followed your advice and moved and stoped when asked by police. None of the civil movements would have been successful.
Of course it would have. To paraphrase Dylan, "The times, they were a changin".
BTW, comparing these OWS people to the civil rights movement really IS building a straw man.
This is just dumb. You might as well have said Gandhi should have been compliant as well.
Do you idiots realize that by the time of what you call "the civil rights movement" of the 60's that the overt legal discrimination of blacks was pretty much geographically limited to the deep south which was run by Democrats?
Is there a video showing the brutality he was talking about. Seems to me, he was trying very hard to provoke some, but the cops just stared at him.
How come you didn't mention this qualifier before?
you mean the same deep South that votes overwhelmingly Conservative in every election
Are the OWS protesters in their ing living room? The reason not to have to include the qualifier should be painfully obvious even to partisan hacks like you.
Which has what to do with what?
Look at all those Democrats in the deep south!
And do you realize that those southern democrat politicos defected to the GOP in the 60s and 70s? Nixon was the first to try and appeal to them nationally. By 1980 they were gone.
Go review the political career of Strom Thurmond.
Your stupidity and ignorance of basic history is showing.
I think that was more of a reaction to the overthrow of the democratic party by the far left wing. You simply can't make the case that the republican party was against civil rights.
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