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    BTW, comparing these OWS people to the civil rights movement really IS building a straw man.
    that's what bigots probably called the 60s protests of Nam

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    that's what bigots probably called the 60s protests of Nam
    Just go back to the troll forum Oden. You are way over your head in here.

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    And what if you are wrong? Are you always certain of your assumptions?
    No! The media lies all goddamn day. You're the one who is always certain of your assumptions, remember?

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    Just go back to the troll forum Oden. You are way over your head in here.
    will I get whacked if I disobey?

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    will I get whacked if I disobey?


    Hater...


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    You're a good looking guy, but no thanks. I'm straight.

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    You're a good looking guy, but no thanks. I'm straight.
    Sure can't tell it by your picture you posted.

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    Sure can't tell it by your picture you posted.
    sure, if you wanna believe that's me and jack off to that pic, go right ahead.

    but let's stay on topic. You claim protesters should always obey every order given from the police. I say if that was the case in the 50s and 60s, we'd still have segregation and a war in Vietnam.

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    I think that was more of a reaction to the overthrow of the democratic party by the far left wing. You simply can't make the case that the republican party was against civil rights.
    Try and keep up. You made the comment that the democrats were the party behind Jim Crow and then make comments about history.

    What you say is true. After the voting rights act of 1965, minorities had the majority and pushed them from the positions of power. The old guard was courted by Nixon and migrated over to the GOP. I make no comments about the current cons uents of the GOP beyond to say that it is the party of the white segment of the baby boomers as it is currently constructed.

    Thrumond and his ilk are long dead. My point is that while those obvious racists started off in the democratic party they ended their careers in the GOP.

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    if Cosmic had his way the Berlin Wall and Apartheid would still be standing

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    if Cosmic had his way the Berlin Wall and Apartheid would still be standing
    And I am done responding to you, you ing idiot.

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    Try and keep up. You made the comment that the democrats were the party behind Jim Crow and then make comments about history.

    What you say is true. After the voting rights act of 1965, minorities had the majority and pushed them from the positions of power. The old guard was courted by Nixon and migrated over to the GOP. I make no comments about the current cons uents of the GOP beyond to say that it is the party of the white segment of the baby boomers as it is currently constructed.

    Thrumond and his ilk are long dead. My point is that while those obvious racists started off in the democratic party they ended their careers in the GOP.
    Who besides Strom Thurmond switched parties? He is the only one I am aware of.

    And the history is undeniable. The Democratic party was the last bastion of segregation.

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    Who besides Strom Thurmond switched parties? He is the only one I am aware of.

    And the history is undeniable. The Democratic party was the last bastion of segregation.
    Are you serious?

    Give me a break. The party structure starts at the precinct level on up. The majority of the racist nonsense went on at the county and state level.

    The biggest indication of this trend was the change in Texas' primary system after the passage of the 24th amendment was going from the closed poll tax, literacy test system to the semiclosed system that is still in use today. It was specifically done so that they could begin voting in GOP primaries in their districts.

    Go look at the county seats of Georgia, Alabama, Texas, South Carolina and Mississippi and its right there. Nixon saw the political clout and courted them. It culminated in the sea of red that was the 1980 election.

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    Are you serious?

    Give me a break. The party structure starts at the precinct level on up. The majority of the racist nonsense went on at the county and state level.

    The biggest indication of this trend was the change in Texas' primary system after the passage of the 24th amendment was going from the closed poll tax, literacy test system to the semiclosed system that is still in use today. It was specifically done so that they could begin voting in GOP primaries in their districts.

    Go look at the county seats of Georgia, Alabama, Texas, South Carolina and Mississippi and its right there. Nixon saw the political clout and courted them. It culminated in the sea of red that was the 1980 election.
    LOL I never disputed that conservatives have gradually drifted to the Republican party after the leadership of the Democratic party was seized by the radical left. Nixon certainly benefited by this drift but the wounds to the democratic party were more self inflicted than masterminded by Nixon. Those mainstream democrats had already become alienated from the party before they became Reagan Democrats.

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    Are you trying to tell us that on October 1st they didn't shut down the Brooklyn Bridge?

    I was there and I was detained along with my research team (i work at a major research university in the area, i study smart mobs). The cops corralled the demonstrators onto the bridge. They split them between the pedestrian walkway and and the traffic side. Once there the police blocked both exits of the bridge and arrested or detained everybody. The protesters didn't shut down the bridge, the cops led them them there. The plan was for the protesters to take the pedestrian walkway to Brooklyn to gather more people to then walk back to Liberty Park.


    You guys are always slamming the liberal or conservative media yet you choose to believe them when it's convenient for you. This isn't a republican/democratic argument or "movement". It is much more politically diverse than you have been led to believe by mainstream media. But believe and interpret as you see fit...

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    You are on a "research team" that studies "smart mobs?"


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    So why did ALL the media reports say that only the ones on the roadway were arrested and that the ones on the pedestrian walkway were not arrested. Are you saying they all lied?

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    Did anyone ever find a video of the "brutality"?

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    You are on a "research team" that studies "smart mobs?"


    sorry...

    Did that go over your head, CC? It's okay to admit it.

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    Here CC, educate yourself for once. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_mob

    This isn't spoon fed to you. You actually have to do some reading here.

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    This video was a marines response to police brutality that has been going on in NY for weeks now, nobody ever said that the video captured a specific act of violence. Get your nose out of Fox and CNN's asses and pay attention to what is going on in the world, try to keep up. It's common knowledge at this point what has been going on. In many instances they are pulling people out of the crowd at random to be beaten and arrested. If you like I can post other videos that DO show police brutality in the midst of these occupy protests.

    Secondly, you were never in the military and are nothing more than a fake tough guy yourself, evidenced by your wanting to be a prison guard.

    But the part about your post I just can't get over and has been making me is where you claim to be former military but then ask "who the wears their uniform out in public?" Dude, if you ever served you would undoubtedly know that this is common practice, , I saw a soldier wearing his in class just a few minutes ago this morning.
    You do a lot of assuming and generally sound like an ignorant asshole.

    I absolutely served in the military---who the would make that up? Is there some kind of warped reason to invent that ?

    I abso inlutely refused to wear my military uniform in public...I served honorably and thought nothing of it...if I had been a poseur---I would have worn my uniform out in public. Let me be clear here;

    ANYONE in the military that wears their uniform in public---WITHOUT an official reason is nothing but a in' poseur....why the would you?
    Wear it to your duty station or only on a military base or to some function where you have been ORDERED TO....otherwise who are you trying to impress?

    That idiot in your class wearing a military uniform...???? WTF?

    Does this moron not have a civilian wardrobe? Why the would he even wear that to a class? What a stupid poseur. If you are serving your country...there is absolutely no need to attempt to parade your uniform anywhere in public.

    One last thing....regarding the OP video....

    If I was this moron's commanding officer and I saw this video...I would call that poseur into my office and tell him who the does he think he is wearing his uniform out in public and making an ass out of the military? Is this idiot's political views the same views that the military shares? Because if you are out in public in uniform=====YOU ARE REPRESENTING THE MILITARY!!!!

    And anything you say or do is just a good or bad reflection on the military....and I would absolutely suspend this idiot until an investigation could be completed....

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    Did that go over your head, CC? It's okay to admit it.

    uhhhh no. Thanks for asking.

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    Here CC, educate yourself for once. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_mob

    This isn't spoon fed to you. You actually have to do some reading here.
    I know what a "smart mob" is dumbass.

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    I know what a "smart mob" is dumbass.


    Clearly.

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    Whats your problem, ? Reading comprehension?

    I find the fact that there are "research teams" studying "smart mobs" highly amusing.

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