BLACK males most consistently under-performing demographic. What can be done?

[Monostradamus]

They make really ty quarterbacks too.

[CubanSucks]

Prison reform is a viable solution, I think, but prison building would only exacerbate the problem. Short and long term.

typical naive women

"They can change! I know they have it in them to become better people!"


the ONLY thing that can permanently change a man is time, especially in regards to something as significant as criminal behavior

[cantthinkofanything]

"from white to black, then flip them back"

and "a minute to learn, a lifetime to master"

[CuckingFunt]

typical naive women

"They can change! I know they have it in them to become better people!"


the ONLY thing that can permanently change a man is time, especially in regards to something as significant as criminal behavior

Once again, your reading comprehension skills prove enviable.

[jag]

If Hilary Swank can do it, then I don't see why Cucking Funt can't.

[Wild Cobra]

You can change a persons skin color, but if their life has shaped their character a particular way, there is still issues.

Just for fun:

[CubanSucks]

If Hilary Swank can do it, then I don't see why Cucking Funt can't.

amen

[DMC]

Did you even read the OP? All facts no trolling.

lol you replied.. I won.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the problem and mentality is them, dont blame the system man when everyone has the same rights and access to an education depending on money and level of ed. your seeking...

if students from poor families or immigrant families can succeed in the most poverish surroundings, i see theres no reason why these colored students cant do the same

[TDMVPDPOY]

the problem and mentality is them, dont blame the system man when everyone has the same rights and access to an education depending on money and level of ed. your seeking...

if students from poor families or immigrant families can succeed in the most poverish surroundings, i see theres no reason why these colored students cant do the same

[DMC]

People do what they are taught to do, whether it be a family member or peers that to the teaching (or even media). There's a reason a lot of suicide bombers come from the same region and the outlook around the M.E. is pretty ty. It's how they are raised, in filth, believing certain people are out to get them, and that they have to survive on their own. They believe all the "help" is just propaganda to normalize them and make them assimilate.

It might manifest as thug mentality, but there are underlying reasons that you cannot just lump into one neat package called at ude.

[DarkReign]

1. Systemic poverty
2. Cultural backlash

What can be done about it? Absolutely nothing.

Popular (<-- keyword there) black culture glorifies being ignorant, being a criminal and the objectification of women. Coupled with the victim mentality pervasive in the the underclass, regardless of race, there is no solution.

At least, no solution anyone wants to hear. What I see is a complete lack of peer pressure to be better. The positive black role models are labelled Uncle Toms or whatever (Cosby, for one..Powell for another).

The only true solution to the problem is to give the black community what they want. Carve out a piece of land in the 48 contiguous states, call it New America or whatever, and let only black people and their families (white, asian, latino, whatever) live there. With their own government, their own laws, everything independent, much the same as Indian reservations.

Unlike reservations, however, no one would ever be forcibly moved there. Completely elective.

2 things I think would happen.

1. "New America" would do a whole lot better than people think based solely on the fact that the first wave of residents would most likely be Black Nationalists with clear agendas, education and opportunity.

2. Most of the undesirables wouldnt go, because things like welfare, not having a job, etc would not be acceptable to the new leadership who would finally create a cultural atmosphere of independence and self improvement.

I would vote for it in a heartbeat so long as the area chosen was good, fertile land and that there was a clear form of government with actual leaders in place to kick it off.

[silverblk mystix]

1. Systemic poverty
2. Cultural backlash

What can be done about it? Absolutely nothing.

Popular (<-- keyword there) black culture glorifies being ignorant, being a criminal and the objectification of women. Coupled with the victim mentality pervasive in the the underclass, regardless of race, there is no solution.

At least, no solution anyone wants to hear. What I see is a complete lack of peer pressure to be better. The positive black role models are labelled Uncle Toms or whatever (Cosby, for one..Powell for another).

The only true solution to the problem is to give the black community what they want. Carve out a piece of land in the 48 contiguous states, call it New America or whatever, and let only black people and their families (white, asian, latino, whatever) live there. With their own government, their own laws, everything independent, much the same as Indian reservations.

Unlike reservations, however, no one would ever be forcibly moved there. Completely elective.

2 things I think would happen.

1. "New America" would do a whole lot better than people think based solely on the fact that the first wave of residents would most likely be Black Nationalists with clear agendas, education and opportunity.

2. Most of the undesirables wouldnt go, because things like welfare, not having a job, etc would not be acceptable to the new leadership who would finally create a cultural atmosphere of independence and self improvement.

I would vote for it in a heartbeat so long as the area chosen was good, fertile land and that there was a clear form of government with actual leaders in place to kick it off.

Truly the stupid post of the year.

[cantthinkofanything]

Truly the stupid post of the year.

If I had a penny every time I thought that about one of your posts, I'd be wealthy.

[silverblk mystix]

If I had a penny every time I thought that about one of your posts, I'd be wealthy.

If you had a penny for every original post that you have ever posted...you would have ZERO pennies...

[cantthinkofanything]

If you had a penny for every original post that you have ever posted...you would have ZERO pennies...

[Findog]

Decriminalize drugs for starters.

- We have the highest incarceration rate for a first-world industrialized country, with many people there for drug-related offenses.

- Somebody that goes to prison for a drug-related offense may not be a hardened criminal when they go in, but they will be ed up by the experience of doing time.

- It's hard to get a good job when you're a convicted felon even in a good economy, much less a bad one. Also a lot of ex-cons have mental problems either from issues they had before they served their time, or stuff happened in prison that ed them up.

- Ex-cons that can't go straight will inevitable violate probation when attempting to make ends meet using their old methods. Or they are not mentally and emotionally equipped to be productive members of society.

- If we decriminalize drugs, a lot of drug-related violent crimes will disappear, in addition to mere possession and dealing warranting a prison sentence. I think this would go a long way towards reducing the incarceration rate of black males. There simply aren't enough of them around to raise their kids and go to work.

[silverblk mystix]

Decriminalize drugs for starters.

- We have the highest incarceration rate for a first-world industrialized country, with many people there for drug-related offenses.

- Somebody that goes to prison for a drug-related offense may not be a hardened criminal when they go in, but they will be ed up by the experience of doing time.

- It's hard to get a good job when you're a convicted felon even in a good economy, much less a bad one. Also a lot of ex-cons have mental problems either from issues they had before they served their time, or stuff happened in prison that ed them up.

- Ex-cons that can't go straight will inevitable violate probation when attempting to make ends meet using their old methods. Or they are not mentally and emotionally equipped to be productive members of society.

- If we decriminalize drugs, a lot of drug-related violent crimes will disappear, in addition to mere possession and dealing warranting a prison sentence. I think this would go a long way towards reducing the incarceration rate of black males. There simply aren't enough of them around to raise their kids and go to work.

I would give ANYONE here one week...to work inside corrections...and then still believe what you posted above.

ANYONE.

When you see firsthand...what kind of people and what kind of life goes on inside...you will lose that pollyanna disposition and seriously stop trying to think you have even the slightest idea of how to change this problem.

There is no solution...people are lazy and the laziest are inside correctional facilities. Work is hard and tiring and discouraging to lazy people. So they find another way of life...they try to TAKE what they can and they try to GET AWAY with whatever they can get away with...and when things don't go their way...they blame everyone but themselves.

One week.

[cantthinkofanything]

I would give ANYONE here one week...to work inside corrections...and then still believe what you posted above.

ANYONE.

When you see firsthand...what kind of people and what kind of life goes on inside...you will lose that pollyanna disposition and seriously stop trying to think you have even the slightest idea of how to change this problem.

There is no solution...people are lazy and the laziest are inside correctional facilities. Work is hard and tiring and discouraging to lazy people. So they find another way of life...they try to TAKE what they can and they try to GET AWAY with whatever they can get away with...and when things don't go their way...they blame everyone but themselves.

One week.

LOL. Ok...you got me on that one.

[mavs>spurs]

It may be true, but I find it ironic that it's coming from a Mexican OP. If blacks aren't perfect, Mexicans are still the worst when it comes to worthless breeds of human beings. Never before in american history (or world history, for that matter really) has another ethic group invaded a country and tried so hard to rudely impose their ty culture on everyone else. Also you guys have more gang bangers and illiterates who can't even speak english than anyone else.

[mavs>spurs]

Decriminalize drugs for starters.

- We have the highest incarceration rate for a first-world industrialized country, with many people there for drug-related offenses.

- Somebody that goes to prison for a drug-related offense may not be a hardened criminal when they go in, but they will be ed up by the experience of doing time.

- It's hard to get a good job when you're a convicted felon even in a good economy, much less a bad one. Also a lot of ex-cons have mental problems either from issues they had before they served their time, or stuff happened in prison that ed them up.

- Ex-cons that can't go straight will inevitable violate probation when attempting to make ends meet using their old methods. Or they are not mentally and emotionally equipped to be productive members of society.

- If we decriminalize drugs, a lot of drug-related violent crimes will disappear, in addition to mere possession and dealing warranting a prison sentence. I think this would go a long way towards reducing the incarceration rate of black males. There simply aren't enough of them around to raise their kids and go to work.

Yup, anyone who takes a basic economics of crime college course would know this. They did it in portugal, and they saw drug use fall substantially along with drug related HIV infections and crime. People are going to do what they want with their bodies and there are already other legal ways out on the market to poison yourself, so telling someone they can't do something is just going to make them want to do it more. At the VERY least they could decriminalize pot which hurts no one (i've never smoked it myself in my life and i still see that it's stupid to make it illegal)

[silverblk mystix]

Yup, anyone who takes a basic economics of crime college course would know this. They did it in portugal, and they saw drug use fall substantially along with drug related HIV infections and crime. People are going to do what they want with their bodies and there are already other legal ways out on the market to poison yourself, so telling someone they can't do something is just going to make them want to do it more. At the VERY least they could decriminalize pot which hurts no one (i've never smoked it myself in my life and i still see that it's stupid to make it illegal)

I would be all for legalization also...but this would in no way help the other problem.

Legalizing certain drugs would be a plus, no doubt, but you are fooling yourself if you think this would alleviate the prison issue...people who are incarcerated would still end up incarcerated...this is who they are...and this is who they will always be.

Of course...there is a very TINY percentage who are wrongly incarcerated and who don't really belong there---I was not referring to these unfortunate victims---

I am referring to the other 99% who have pretty much chosen this path and who are too lazy to change it.

[hater]

LOL most of you never been to the hood more than 10 minutes.

how in the would someone with half a brain say blacks in the hood have as much opportunities as whites in the suburbs/mid america? the idiocy

is it possible? yes. But I bet for a black youth to come out of the hood with no criminal record and a high school diploma is at least 10x as hard as a white from the suburbs/mid america.

[Trill Clinton]

[DMC]

1. Systemic poverty
2. Cultural backlash

What can be done about it? Absolutely nothing.

Popular (<-- keyword there) black culture glorifies being ignorant, being a criminal and the objectification of women. Coupled with the victim mentality pervasive in the the underclass, regardless of race, there is no solution.

At least, no solution anyone wants to hear. What I see is a complete lack of peer pressure to be better. The positive black role models are labelled Uncle Toms or whatever (Cosby, for one..Powell for another).

The only true solution to the problem is to give the black community what they want. Carve out a piece of land in the 48 contiguous states, call it New America or whatever, and let only black people and their families (white, asian, latino, whatever) live there. With their own government, their own laws, everything independent, much the same as Indian reservations.

Unlike reservations, however, no one would ever be forcibly moved there. Completely elective.

2 things I think would happen.

1. "New America" would do a whole lot better than people think based solely on the fact that the first wave of residents would most likely be Black Nationalists with clear agendas, education and opportunity.

2. Most of the undesirables wouldnt go, because things like welfare, not having a job, etc would not be acceptable to the new leadership who would finally create a cultural atmosphere of independence and self improvement.

I would vote for it in a heartbeat so long as the area chosen was good, fertile land and that there was a clear form of government with actual leaders in place to kick it off.

They would kick our asses in football and basketball, but we would rock their world in chess.