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    That’s what we’re doing when we decide that we can be okay with having more unpredictable careers and more modest lifestyles, if that’s what’s in store: Even as we hold out hope that something will reverse the trajectory, we are managing our decline, we are making do.

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    You're an early Xer at best if you were of working age in the early 80s. I understand your reluctance to be grouped with the boomer generation, though.

    I was born in 1969. I didn't start working until the mid-80's. Still, I was never "above" taking so-called " ty jobs" when I needed them. I've had hard times myself, but it has never even occured to me to blame another group of people for my problems.

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    Do you think the economic downturn hurt only your generation? I know a lot of young people are stressing out about their student loans and paying their cell phone bill, but the evil, older generations are worried about losing a giant chunk of their 401k, having a mortgage that is underwater, saving for our own kids' educations, etc. etc. Those of us that have lived through equally ty times (1970's) know "this too shall pass". Camping out in the financial districts of America doesn't seem like the most creative use of time, IMHO.
    No bit i do definitely believe that the top is trying to pass on blame elsewhere. It manifests itself by requiring the young who require health care the least to pay for those that need it most in this health care bill in the condescending you see in industry constantly.

    i personally have made it a point NOT to deal with others in that nature and i certainly put little stock in seniority. Merit is merit is merit.

    The funny thing is that in DR's story the person that gave him his shot was an 18 year old. As you know very well, the rank and file of American management would have laughed at the prospect of someone of his background getting the shot to take a job he was clearly not qualified for much less a shot to run the plant.

    Its clear that you have chosen the sycophant routine. So be it.

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    Those of us that have lived through equally ty times (1970's)
    This is another problem - people who think our current recession is equivalent to the ones they endured growing up.

    Unless you graduated in 1929 you cannot empathize with my generation. We have more of a right to complain than any generation but that one.

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    Replace "governed" with "altered by". We aren't arguing much other than semantics on this derail.
    I think there are extenuating cir stances where that does indeed happen, but they are indeed extenuating cir stances (highly charged emotional moments, severe time constrains, etc). I don't see those as occurring often to the vast majority of people though. They're indeed exceptions to the rule. (IMO anyways).

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    This is another problem - people who think our current recession is equivalent to the ones they endured growing up.

    Unless you graduated in 1929 you cannot empathize with my generation. We have more of a right to complain than any generation but that one.

    I see.

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    I was born in 1969. I didn't start working until the mid-80's. Still, I was never "above" taking so-called " ty jobs" when I needed them. I've had hard times myself, but it has never even occured to me to blame another group of people for my problems.
    The morning before we met, Desi’s motorcycle had broken down. If his truck goes next, he won’t have the money to fix it. “A little bit of bad luck, and things can unravel pretty quickly,” he said. But Desi wanted to sell me on the merits of constrained cir stances, not tick off tales of woe. He is still delivering diapers, but he’s now got another job as a woodworker-slash-lacquerer. He finds a satisfaction in the craft that eluded Sam, my high school’s former can’t-miss kid, during his woodworking interregnum.
    Remember how most Americans think this generation will be worse off than the one that preceded it? This generation doesn’t agree. A plurality of young people still think they’ll do better than their parents. Our optimism is surprisingly durable. A large-scale Pew study published in 2010 showed that about 90 percent of us either say that we currently have enough money or will eventually meet our long-term financial goals—we’re more hopeful on that front, in fact, than we were before the recession.
    Yeah, the economic crap the previous generations left us wasn't their fault. Why should any of the blame be placed on their shoulders? Own it Darrin, because its yours. Don't take that to mean its going to stop us. You don't see the young people in this forum laying down and giving up, do you? We'll forge ahead because we'll deal with whatever comes down the pipe but that doesn't change that fact that you and your parents truly did a terrible job of setting the stage.

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    We do! We got ed over more than any of you. What do you think this thread's OP was about?

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    People are even graduating with science and engineering degrees and cannot find jobs worth a damn, because the economy is the worst it has been since the great depression.
    People are even graduating with science and engineering degrees and cannot find jobs worth a damn, because the economy is the worst it has been since the great depression.
    People are even graduating with science and engineering degrees and cannot find jobs worth a damn, because the economy is the worst it has been since the great depression.
    People are even graduating with science and engineering degrees and cannot find jobs worth a damn, because the economy is the worst it has been since the great depression.
    This bear repeating over and over again. I know that its fun to point to the poetry degrees as if they should be deemed unemployable but I know so many people with engineering degrees that are going back to school because its either that work for nothing or move to western australia.

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    Really? I don't find it surprising at all.

    What makes me sad is how few people can't seem to understand what the point of the journalist was even though its right there in the article's le. Somehow many here see this as some kind of pity party through by an en led self centered generation which is so ironic considering the article's contents.
    I often tend to find defensiveness a surprising reaction, so... grain of salt, and all.

    But I think my surprise is based on the same thing that makes you sad. Just as the article was clearly NOT a self centered pity party, neither did it take the position that this generation is the first ever that's had to face hardships or that the baby boomers, on an individual level, are evil for wanting to own homes. For that reason, the personal anecdotes about decades old salary cuts and the like take on a "walked 12 miles in the snow" quality that seems wholly out of context.

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    This is another problem - people who think our current recession is equivalent to the ones they endured growing up.

    Unless you graduated in 1929 you cannot empathize with my generation. We have more of a right to complain than any generation but that one.

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    You found the original article and posted it. What the do you think that article is about?

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    I often tend to find defensiveness a surprising reaction, so... grain of salt, and all.

    But I think my surprise is based on the same thing that makes you sad. Just as the article was clearly NOT a self centered pity party, neither did it take the position that this generation is the first ever that's had to face hardships or that the baby boomers, on an individual level, are evil for wanting to own homes. For that reason, the personal anecdotes about decades old salary cuts and the like take on a "walked 12 miles in the snow" quality that seems wholly out of context.
    It wasn't the article at all. I read the article front to back in the magazine, thought it raised some interesting points, and found it on the net and posted it in here.

    The responses were more in response to the whiney posters her at spurstalk.

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    By the way, SS probably won't be there for you either, so be prepared.
    What does 'be prepared' supposed to mean?

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    We do! We got ed over more than any of you. What do you think this thread's OP was about?

    Hmmm

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    What does 'be prepared' supposed to mean?
    Better damn well save for your own retirement.

    Well, unless you are public servant with a pension.

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    People are even graduating with science and engineering degrees and cannot find jobs worth a damn, because the economy is the worst it has been since the great depression.
    People are even graduating with science and engineering degrees and cannot find jobs worth a damn, because the economy is the worst it has been since the great depression.
    People are even graduating with science and engineering degrees and cannot find jobs worth a damn, because the economy is the worst it has been since the great depression.
    People are even graduating with science and engineering degrees and cannot find jobs worth a damn, because the economy is the worst it has been since the great depression.
    This bear repeating over and over again. I know that its fun to point to the poetry degrees as if they should be deemed unemployable but I know so many people with engineering degrees that are going back to school because its either that work for nothing or move to western australia.

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    This bear repeating over and over again. I know that its fun to point to the poetry degrees as if they should be deemed unemployable but I know so many people with engineering degrees that are going back to school because its either that work for nothing or move to western australia.
    Oh, they will probably have a hard time making big bucks if they want to stay in San Antonio but engineers are still in big demand if they are willing to relocate. They could probably go to work for GE tomorrow.

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    Better damn well save for your own retirement.

    Well, unless you are public servant with a pension.
    With what money from what job?

    You're basically telling him to 'be prepared' to get screwed over the money he might be putting into SS if he has a job at all. That's the advice?

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    Oh, they will probably have a hard time making big bucks if they want to stay in San Antonio but engineers are still in big demand if they are willing to relocate. They could probably go to work for GE tomorrow.
    That's if GE doesn't keep moving their divisions to China... you know like their X-Ray division.

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    This bear repeating over and over again. I know that its fun to point to the poetry degrees as if they should be deemed unemployable but I know so many people with engineering degrees that are going back to school because its either that work for nothing or move to western australia.

    Engineers are a dime a dozen. I should know.

    But, by all means, go back to school. Lol.

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    Oh, they will probably have a hard time making big bucks if they want to stay in San Antonio but engineers are still in big demand if they are willing to relocate. They could probably go to work for GE tomorrow.
    Who said they were from San Antonio? I know of one guy in that cir stance that lives there now.

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    Engineers are a dime a dozen. I should know.

    But, by all means, go back to school. Lol.
    Maybe those of your caliber. You are the one that had to go and learn a technicians job to get employment when the economy was good. Speak for yourself.

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