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    What did Clinton do that was that horrible sin called being progressive?

    His environmental progress was extremely popular, but the UCA sees that as regressive, not progressive.
    I put the word in quotes; conventional wisdom. Blue team (Reich) = Progressive; Red Team = "Regressive" (in the op).

    In all I can't complain about the Clinton Presidency, and any honest conservative would probably agree with me.

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    I put the word in quotes; conventional wisdom. Blue team (Reich) = Progressive; Red Team = "Regressive" (in the op).

    In all I can't complain about the Clinton Presidency, and any honest conservative would probably agree with me.
    Clinton and Gramm's ciricle jerk led directly to the gutting of the Glass-Steagall and the Securities and Exchange Act.

    As a person who thinks for myself i have huge issues with Clinton.

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    Clinton and Gramm's ciricle jerk led directly to the gutting of the Glass-Steagall and the Securities and Exchange Act.

    As a person who thinks for myself i have huge issues with Clinton.
    I should have said "Glass Steagal" not withstanding.

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    Wow, I believe in every one of those things!

    I must be a progressive!

    Robert Reich, on the other hand, is the definition of a Wal Street/Washington Insider. He is most definitely, the 1% (and I don't mean on just the growth charts).
    Damn...

    I didn't know I was a progressive either.

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    The original article was a total crock of .

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    crock of .

    hit close to home, huh?

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    crock of .

    hit close to home, huh?
    Nope. Just sucked almost as bad as you do.

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    I'm liberal as but there were plenty of things Clinton did that I think ed America up (no getting his wet wasn't one of them)

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    Clinton got Wall St stars in his eyes and on his staff. Rubin convinced him Wall St could be trusted after Glass-Steagall was killed and that derivatives being unregulated and invisible would be no problem.

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    I like how he didn't get in the way of the economy at the time, while it was booming, and how he was able to work with a GOP Congress to get done, including balancing the budget.

    But there's no doubt that there we downsides to his government too.

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    Clinton got Wall St stars in his eyes and on his staff. Rubin convinced him Wall St could be trusted after Glass-Steagall was killed and that derivatives being unregulated and invisible would be no problem.
    Not to mention NAFTA and the abortion that's become

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    Not to mention NAFTA and the abortion that's become
    But we love those "Assembled in Mexico" cheap TVs!

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    We were a hugely progressive experiment. A shiny new republic which bound the power of government out of su ion for man's tendency toward a love of money and power..one which favored the individuals rights.

    From that we have regressed backward, removing these controls on govt, eventually allowing criminals to steer our country completely opposite to the will of the electorate.

    As a country, we wish for an altruistic dictator to solve all our problems and make our lives a heaven on earth. In reality our tendency to turn over the reigns to government plays right into the hands of big business who steer policy and legislation in their favor. Worse, our civil liberties disappear as fast as the restraints.

    Wake up and think for yourself.

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    We were a hugely progressive experiment. A shiny new republic which bound the power of government out of su ion for man's tendency toward a love of money and power..one which favored the individuals rights.

    From that we have regressed backward, removing these controls on govt, eventually allowing criminals to steer our country completely opposite to the will of the electorate.

    As a country, we wish for an altruistic dictator to solve all our problems and make our lives a heaven on earth. In reality our tendency to turn over the reigns to government plays right into the hands of big business who steer policy and legislation in their favor. Worse, our civil liberties disappear as fast as the restraints.

    Wake up and think for yourself.
    Guys like Madison and Hamilton were not there from the very beginning.

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    Clinton's primary issue IMO was that, in an effort to secure campaign funding, he was too eager to convince Wall St that Democrats were as convinced of the need for deregulation as Republicans.

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    Clinton's primary issue IMO was that, in an effort to secure campaign funding, he was too eager to convince Wall St that Democrats were as convinced of the need for deregulation as Republicans.
    He did the circle jerk with Gramm after he was reelected.

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    The original article was a total crock of .
    crock of for brains, how about refuting each his statements?

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    Wow, I believe in every one of those things!

    I must be a progressive!

    Robert Reich, on the other hand, is the definition of a Wal Street/Washington Insider. He is most definitely, the 1% (and I don't mean on just the growth charts).
    Compared with the rabid right that seems to be in the drivers seat in conservative politics, you are a downright pinko commie. That is kinda his point.

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    The original article was a total crock of .
    You have him in the crushing grip of reason, sir. Well played.

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    Compared with the rabid right that seems to be in the drivers seat in conservative politics, you are a downright pinko commie. That is kinda his point.
    The aren't just wrong, they're "rabid". Seriously? Hey, I don't like any of the current GOP candidates either, but I wouldn't say they are rabid.

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    The aren't just wrong, they're "rabid". Seriously? Hey, I don't like any of the current GOP candidates either, but I wouldn't say they are rabid.
    Bachman is quite there, as are the groups requiring the various "pledges".

    That you don't find many of them to be extremist is merely another harbringer of long-term Republican decline, because most independents and moderates do.

    Partisan hacks like yourself can't see this because of the ideological blinders you wear as badges of honor.

    Its a bit like the drunk at the party who thinks he is being totally charming, despite the vomit soaked shirt he is stumbling around in. Everyone else sees it far more clearly.

    I doubt the GOP will sober up in time to remain relevant, given the echo chamber effect of Fox "news" et al. It may actually finally lead to a third party.

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    how about the mad dogs who signed onto the pledges of rabies?

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    I put the word in quotes; conventional wisdom. Blue team (Reich) = Progressive; Red Team = "Regressive" (in the op).

    In all I can't complain about the Clinton Presidency, and any honest conservative would probably agree with me.
    Honest conservatives seem to be sadly few and far between these days.

    I still remember all the endless ing about Clinton.

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    We were a hugely progressive experiment. A shiny new republic which bound the power of government out of su ion for man's tendency toward a love of money and power..one which favored the individuals rights.

    From that we have regressed backward, removing these controls on govt, eventually allowing criminals to steer our country completely opposite to the will of the electorate.

    As a country, we wish for an altruistic dictator to solve all our problems and make our lives a heaven on earth. In reality our tendency to turn over the reigns to government plays right into the hands of big business who steer policy and legislation in their favor. Worse, our civil liberties disappear as fast as the restraints.

    Wake up and think for yourself.
    In truth, if they had their way we’d be back in the late nineteenth century — before the federal income tax, an rust laws, the pure food and drug act, and the Federal Reserve. A time when robber barons — railroad, financial, and oil ans — ran the country. A time of wrenching squalor for the many and mind-numbing wealth for the few.
    Welcome to the regressive right, dumbass.

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    Partisan hacks like yourself can't see this because of the ideological blinders you wear as badges of honor.

    Its a bit like the drunk at the party who thinks he is being totally charming, despite the vomit soaked shirt he is stumbling around in. Everyone else sees it far more clearly.


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