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^+ Jones was a born loser.
Rice was a winner.
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Bottom line Bryan Colangelo is a GM who didn't have a clue what he was doing. People think the 2004 off season validates his career as a GM but outside of that his career as a GM in Phoenix was an abortion. That 3 PG strategy they had with KJ-Kidd-Nash was some of the dumbest stuff I've ever seen.
Caron for Kwame, but in the end that one worked out great ...
I loved Caron's mindset at his best he was a borderline all-star, Kwame at his best was just a serviceable big. Just because we shipped his salary for Pau doesnt mean that still was not a hore trade.
^Caron is a loser though. He's just in a winner's circle.
It happens.
Kinda like all Hispanic Lakers fans tbh
I found it amusing that Kobe went from being listed at 6'8 his first 2-3 seasons in the league to 6'6 afterwards when he finally ended up playing almost exclusively at SG. I do think that over the past decade where both SGs and SFs started getting bigger and stronger, Kobe's best position particularly in his prime years had to be at SG. I don't know if you want Kobe playing at 220-225 to really handle that SF position defensively. You take away a lot of his quickness.Eddie Jones and Seldom Cambell for Glen Rice. Mental midgets will read this and say WTF, the won a ring with Rice. Shallow thinking at best. Don't do that trade and Phil Jax has this starting lineup to coach:
Fish
Eddie Jones
Kobe @ SF
Campbell
Shaq
^ 4 peat at a minimum. Plus they had a decent beach.
And by the time the Lakers traded Elden, he was no longer the 220 pound guy he was his first few years in the league. He was 260+, probably more. Don't think you wanted him playing starter minutes at PF by the early 2000s.
Thatemoticon is like Cully's white flag when he has nothing else to say
He got a free pass because of his last name, which is understandable to a point. Even his best moves are tinged with idiocy. He traded the #7 pick (Deng or Iguodala) to Chicago before knowing who was even available, doing so to clear CAP space for a run at Kobe, which was never going to happen. The package acquired for #7 overall turned into a 2nd-rounder and a late 1st. Ultimately the CAP space was used to sign Quentin Richardson, who was then packaged with the acquired late 1st for Kurt Thomas - effectively meaning Colangelo traded Richardson and their #7 for Kurt Thomas.
The offseason he built his career on he traded two 1st-rounders, getting crap in return, overpaid Nash by almost 3 million per season from what anyone else was offering - a move that took them out of the Manu Ginobili and Kenyon Martin sweepstakes.
He was just like his dad in the sense he overhauled teams way too much. His first good off season leads to a 62 win team that makes the conference finals and loses to a much more experienced and seasoned team, so of course he decides to overhaul the entire team and make it so Nash, Amare and Marion were the only 3 players they kept. It's no different than when he immediately became GM and decided to trade Dan Majerle for Hot Rod Williams.
And the one smart decision of the Joe Johnson trade (choosing Boris Diaw over Josh Childress) wasn't even him. He wanted Childress and David Griffin convinced him to chose Diaw.
In retrospect, according to market value and what teams were and weren't going to spend to retain players, Colangelo could have landed both Nash and Richardson while keeping #7 and drafting either Deng or Iguodala. Cuban was ready to move on and wasn't going to match a 8 million per type contract for Nash, and Sterling wasn't going to match a lengthy mid-level per contract for Richardson. Instead of this, however, Colangelo offers 10-per to Nash and 7-per to Richardson. Yes, the deals enabled him to make sure he got them, but they were his no matter. Nobody else was offering anything close to what he was throwing their way.
Yeah lets not forget the career Colangelo has made of overpaying players. Neither Nash nor Richardson happen if Isiah Thomas wasn't kind enough to absorb the abortions that Marbury's and Hardaway's contracts were.
Well, and then he overpaid Diaw and Barbosa based upon "projected" development, neither working out well.
His most glaring overpay was Turkoglu with Toronto.
Diaw and Barbosa I'm pretty sure was D'antoni who was an even worse GM than Colangelo.
And yeah I still can't believe two different teams have traded for Turkoglu's contract since he got it.
His most underrated contract was giving Marion the max. Having a player who couldn't even create a shot or dribble a basketball making the max contributed more to the Suns' cap issues than I think anyone realizes.
Good call on D'Antoni. You're right. Marion got MAX because the Suns had traded Kidd, who was talking about Marion signing with Jersey as a free agent. They made Marion an offer nobody else could/would.
I never understood why Colagenlo was so willing to trade 1sts. His strength was actually drafting. They didn't all work out, and some mistakes were made, but for the player, for the pick, Colangelo-led selections worked out very well, but they had like five 1sts in a decade.
True, but in the triangle, they BOTH would have thrived - meaning they didn't have to trade Eddie. Rice was a one dimensional shooter. Eddie was a triple threat player who went on to Charlotte and starred. He could have done that in LA next to Kobe under the tutelage of Phil.
IIRC, Phil wanted no parts of Rice because he was allergic to defense. As soon as Foxy got his ass in shape, Rice was gone. And we still 3peated.
Imagine teams having to deal with 21 year old Kobe, Shaq, and EJ in the triangle. I could.
Shallow-minded trade.
Jones could handle the ball and play D
Rice couldn't even guard a 5 year old
True. But, Rice was a winner. Jones was a loser.
Lakers have made some trades that didn't work out as intended, but I don't question the philosophy behind them because they're always looking to improve in the middle.
I recall the Mychal Thompson trade way back in the '80s. That one was a watershed moment. That had the Celtics, in particular Bird absolutely incensed. And he was everything as advertised. An absolutely perfect fit for us.
He was a great pick up, as the Lakers needed a backup for Kareem
Artest for Ariza..dayum what a stupid trade!
^Not as stupid as Pierce backin' up on Artest.
tee, hee.
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