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You think grocery prices are high now? Just wait til spring/summer.
they have produce in san antonio?
you couldn't tell by looking.
You think grocery prices are high now? Just wait til spring/summer.
I agree that some people under some cir stances need governmental assistance. As a program, the food cards are probably better than some of the other programs.
I honestly don't know what the answer is in weeding out the wheat from the chaff.
I am routinely laughed at in here for using the slurpee example but it is painfully true.
There is a Section 8 apartment building next to the Valero near my office that I patronize. I routinely stand in line there as healthy 20 somethings,male and female and usually dragging along a kid or two hit the counter with their chips, hot dogs, candy, big reds and slurpees and swipe the Lone Star card. They are usually buying beer and cigarettes at the same time (with cash) so each one makes two transactions. It is not unusual for this to happen 5 or 6 times in a row.
The problem as I see it, is that the government benefit route (housing, food support, child support, medical support, etc.) has become a legitimate lifestyle choice for the underclass, thus perpetuating it generation after generation.
That's much better. Using words is way more conducive to real discussion than snarky youtubes.
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there is serious coin to be made in section 8 housing.
"healthy 20 somethings,male and female and usually dragging along a kid or two hit the counter with their chips, hot dogs, candy, big reds and slurpees and swipe the Lone Star card."
White and brown people, with jobs and money, in San Antonio "nourish" themselves with the same food-like garbage, and it shows in their excess weight.
Do you expect poor people to have more brains and scruples about what they eat?
I don't doubt your observations, and I'm sure they give you gloat-loads of pleasure and orgasms of righteous indignation.
What's wrong with buying your kids chips, hot dogs, candy, big reds and slurpees?I routinely stand in line there as healthy 20 somethings,male and female and usually dragging along a kid or two hit the counter with their chips, hot dogs, candy, big reds and slurpees and swipe the Lone Star card.
These are all food items are they not?
they're in front of him?
@CC:
Do you think the government should be telling parents what kind of food to buy and not to buy?
What part of the government "providing a legitimate lifestyle choice" didn't you get?
is a slurpee a luxury?
I don't have to take that into account since it is already done.
Maybe you could flesh that out a bit. I don't see where you're going with this.What part of the government "providing a legitimate lifestyle choice" didn't you get?
Is buying slurpees and hot dogs for your kids an illegitimate lifestyle choice? if so, how so?
I say it's not enough
foods on CC's legitimate lifestyle list must not contain sugar, calories or fat.
A New Mexican gets a different amount than a Texan in the same situation. I am not being comba ive, but I find it a little strange (and superflous) to introduce cost of living into the conversation.
I haven't spent a lot of time reading CCs posts OUTSIDE of this thread on this topic (or at least cataloguing them in my mind to bring back up), but when talking about the lifestyle choice, I think he was talking about the whole package of living totally off of government assistance, and only using the slurpees with the kids to point this out. Now, it is obvious that he is irked by their ability to purchase junk food with food stamps (otherwise why specify what they are purchasing), but I think that attacking that specific point is missing the forest for the trees.
Oh and WH, I agree with your assessment of why he posted the videos in the OP.
I don't know the all the answers but I know the way we are doing it is not working.
Like I have said, my office is right next to an urban high school, next to a salvation army dorm, and in a what would normally be considered an underclass neighborhood so I see painful examples every day. I've been there 30 years.
I see 16 year old pregnant girls pushing strollers with their 2 year olds to the SAISD daycare at their high school. I see the same girls walk back by my office 15 minutes later skipping school with their "crew" to go smoke dope over under the freeway.
I see these kids growing up in a culture where getting an education is dismissed as something for the uncool losers to do.
I see government providing such an extensive safety net that living life "off the books" and utilizing the myriad of programs available is perceived as a viable lifestyle choice to staying in class, graduating, and pursuing an "on the books" job and trying to live a responsible lifestyle. At that age being irresponsible is a of a lot more fun. I see these same kids grow up "in the hood" and becoming disfunctional adults just hanging around on door steps, drinking 40's smoking dope, and waiting for their next check to be deposited.
Like I said, I don't know what the answer is, but I sure know what isn't working.
What does any of that have to do with record enrollment in food stamps?
Leads to dope smoking, teen pregnancy and hi-skool dropouts?
Expect to see a lot more HS girls pregnant and pushing strollers, because the TX Repugs have shutdown family planning centers that were providing free contraceptives, and I guess condoms.
Food stamps convinced kids school is uncool?
Oh, you Winehole.
I try to have a serious conversation about a serious issue and you just want to try and be cute. Piss off.
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