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And a resounding " you!' to you too.
I've paid my million plus in taxes.
CC is only cool with government subsudies that give free motorized carts, not with government programs that feed the needy and their children.
And a resounding " you!' to you too.
I've paid my million plus in taxes.
If you pricks are cool with accepting a system of "no questions asked" safety nets that guarantee a permanent and exponentially expanding underclass then there is nothing to discuss here.
I can see the argument about a cycle of dependency, but singling out food stamps seems like tunnel vision. And singling them out with unemployment and food insecurity at generational highs is cynical in the extreme.
then you've definitely earned a subsidized golf cart.
lol
You're off topic, and dodging. I asked you how any of that was relevant to record enrollment for food stamps. You have no answer for that so far. No one is fooled.
Last edited by Winehole23; 11-02-2011 at 12:04 PM.
Acting as if teen pregnancy and pot smoking is only a poor urban thing really doesn't have to do witht eh discussion at hand.
BTW, who is the arbiter of 'legitimate' lifestyles?
Do you consider an intentionally chosen cradle to grave life of government dependence to be a legitimate lifestyle choice?
This was the same chant back in the 90s with the welfare reform of Clinton/Gramm. Those changes were enacted and exacerbated the problem. The proof is in the pudding.
Your welfare state fearmongering wasn't cute back then either nor was the business deregulation.
Food stamps is not a no questions asked program. I know a number of people who've tried, and failed, to get them.
i would not choose myself to that arbiter any more than i would choose you. You are avoiding the question. And that is the same red herring bull lie the baby boomer elites fed us back in the 1990s.
Is that the typical lifestyle of food stamp users?
Also, the "I've paid a million in taxes" is a bull argument for anything unless you are arguing that you are far more fortunate than most people as evidenced by the fact that you have made SO much money, that you have paid 1M in taxes. Seems a little indirect, but it works.
The only reason to get turned down is that they have too much "on the books" verifiable income. The question that DOESN'T get asked is WHY doesn't this person have any verifiable income?
The same Valero these people are slapping the Lone Star Card down at ALWAYS has a help wanted sign in the window and employment apps behind the counter.
Rather than continue to take flak for the childish and simple-minded vids he posted, or his rambling, semi-coherent rant about public dependency, CC wants to talk about something else, anything else but the fact that nearly one in six Americans needs public relief in order to eat.
would 16 year old, pregnant teenagers qualify for that position?
Talk about avoiding the question...
Yes.
Next?
Food and water should be provided to people who are unable to work for them. To those who simply choose not to work, those things should not be provided. Doing so would only encourage more people to follow a similar path.
I realize this is a very basic viewpoint, but how exactly can any hardworking person turn a blind eye to the amount of waste and laziness that's fostered by this program?
These people? They're your countrymen, CC. Fellow citizens.
do you work for valero in the HR department?
Aren't you usually a cheerleader for smaller gubmint? Would you really want someone sitting in an office to be making those sorts of judgment calls?
Not to mention that you have pretty drastically simplified the process. Contrary to popular belief, it is not easy to obtain or to keep food stamps.
They're buying slurpees for their kids, no? Does the 'hood Valero provide child care?
And the only reason Winehole wants to micro-focus on food stamps is that he is too big of a to discuss the bigger issue of perpetual dependency as a government provided lifestyle choice.
No, the local school taxes do that.
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