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    ESPN.com reports that “significant cap relief” is expected this year, according to sources close to the negotiations. Early reports are that teams will receive cap relief and tax relief: 75 percent of a player’s contract value will not count against the salary cap when it is shed via amnesty.


    ESPN also reported Friday that San Antonio Spurs majority owner Peter Holt has been at the forefront of a successful push to allow teams to have at least two years to decide whether or not to release one player via amnesty, as opposed to the 2005 version that gave clubs two weeks in August to use or lose the amnesty option forever.


    Read more: http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...mnesty-clause/

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    why wait get rj the fck outta here his salary is sickening

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    It would probably appeal to more owners by allowing two years to decide.

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    The 2 years waiting period wouldn't really be that useful to Spurs. Spurs will only be in the luxury tax territory this year so using it after it would greatly reduce the interest of using this clause.

    Holt might fight for this 2 years period but I don't think it's for him, it's for other small market owners.
    Last edited by Bruno; 11-01-2011 at 11:10 AM.

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    get the out asshole

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    The 2 years waiting period wouldn't really be that useful to Spurs. Spurs will only be in the luxury tax territory this year so using it after it would greatly reduce the interest of using this clause.

    Holt might fight for this 2 years period but I don't think it's for him, it's for other small market owners.
    Yeah, I don't get why Holt is the one leading the charge about the 2-year-period. Why would he want to wait? He should want to cut RJ as soon as he can.

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    Yeah, I don't get why Holt is the one leading the charge about the 2-year-period. Why would he want to wait? He should want to cut RJ as soon as he can.
    I've been wondering if they got any bites in doing a trade with RJ before the lockout began. Is there anywhere he'd make a better fit? His 3 pt% was improving....

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    Yeah, I don't get why Holt is the one leading the charge about the 2-year-period. Why would he want to wait? He should want to cut RJ as soon as he can.
    Maybe he's going to save it to dump Parker's contract

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    Maybe he's going to save it to dump Parker's contract
    I thought about that too.

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    The Thunder probably benefit the most from being able to save it. Is Holt doing Presti a solid?

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    a trade that worked on the espn thing was
    rip hamilton & wilcox for rj & bonner
    get it done.

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    I'm confused, so they WOULDN'T be able to release RJ this year even though they have had him for over 2 years? Are you guys sure about that?

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    The 2 year is perfect for the Blazers. They need to see what Roy has left and make a decision.

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    I'm confused, so they WOULDN'T be able to release RJ this year even though they have had him for over 2 years? Are you guys sure about that?
    It means that each team would get one amnesty clause to use on a player (be it an existing contract, or one to be signed) over the next two years, and they could use it at any time during that timeframe.

    With the last amnesty clause, teams had to decide to use it within the first two weeks, or lose it altogether.

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    I just assume that the Spurs are not ready to admit total RJ failure just yet. They probably still want to see if they can dump him somehow so as not to pay him a bunch simply to go away.

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    I just assume that the Spurs are not ready to admit total RJ failure just yet. They probably still want to see if they can dump him somehow so as not to pay him a bunch simply to go away.
    Maybe Holt will give Jefferson and Bonner a one-year play-off to see who sucks more and gets amnestied first.

    /wishfulthinking

    Too bad we don't have two clauses.

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    For the life of me, I cannot understand why they ever resigned RJ last offseason, in the place. The Spurs wouldn't be in this pickle at all had they simply allowed RJ to walk. Especially after he did them a favor by unexpectedly opting out of that ridiculous 15mil-per year contract he had.

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    For the life of me, I cannot understand why they ever resigned RJ last offseason, in the place. The Spurs wouldn't be in this pickle at all had they simply allowed RJ to walk. Especially after he did them a favor by unexpectedly opting out of that ridiculous 15mil-per year contract he had.
    Because :
    1. He only opted out because of the offer he was going to receive, don't kid yourself he, or the Spurs for that matter, were not aware what was going on
    2. The Spurs would have been deeply in lux tax territory had he not opted out
    3. There wasn't any replacement available for the little money the Spurs were left to play with, and each one's cost would have been doubled because of the luxury tax
    4. The Spurs may not have been able to pay Splitter, being deep into lux tax

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    I just assume that the Spurs are not ready to admit total RJ failure just yet. They probably still want to see if they can dump him somehow so as not to pay him a bunch simply to go away.
    & have to be summarily humiliated. is a kept secret outside these Boards.


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    If the Spurs can keep RJ and stay out of the tax, I don't think they amnesty him. He fills a huge positional need.

    If amnesty-ing Bonner gets the Spurs under the tax, I want them to do it and make a hard push for Rashard Lewis. /pipedream

    Actually, the Spurs could amnesty RJ after all if someone like Mike Miller, Marvin Williams, or Josh Childress agrees to play for a small contract. They would need the ink to dry first, though.

    Edit: if amnesty-ing RJ is the only way to get under the tax (obv not using it on any of the big 3), I think he's gone.

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    For the life of me, I cannot understand why they ever resigned RJ last offseason, in the place. The Spurs wouldn't be in this pickle at all had they simply allowed RJ to walk. Especially after he did them a favor by unexpectedly opting out of that ridiculous 15mil-per year contract he had.
    That was no favor; him opting out ed the Spurs out of what would be one of the best trading pieces in the league (provided there is actually a season).

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    If amnesty-ing Bonner gets the Spurs under the tax, I want them to do it and make a hard push for Rashard Lewis. /pipedream
    Rashard Lewis is a soft ass . He's Bonner, with a really, really good tan. If the Spurs ever signed him, I'd be totally done with them.

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    If the Spurs can keep RJ and stay out of the tax, I don't think they amnesty him. He fills a huge positional need.

    Even though Leonard hasn't played a single minute of pro ball I'm CONVINCED he's already better than RJ. I wouldn't be surprised if Leonard starts next year. Rj was pretty damn bad last year, I'm sure Leonard can replicate his offense while being a MUCH better defender/rebounder/passer than him. The Spurs have already said they want to get back to a defensive force and with RJ they can't do that. We even heard rumors of trading TP with RJ, a young PG that has won 'ships with our team and is also one of the best PG's in the NBA.

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    spurs will be big players in FA if everything goes to plan

    duncans contract expires this season if theres one...

    then ginobolis the following year right?

    thats like 30m off the books...and plenty of young guys on the team on rookie deals...

    amnesty that idiot rj....

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    The RJ bashing never gets old. He was added to a team with 3 allstars and told to fill a role and mostly did. He hit 47 fg% and 44% 3pt and an ts% 61 all on limited touches. He tried on defense alot of times. What more do you want from him on team with Manu, Dunc, and TP? To score 20ppg? Wait, he was scoring 20ppg at the beginning of the season but Pop and TP slowed the tempo down to not play to his strengths. The Spurs know what they have to do to get more out of RJ. They just have to go back to doing it. It also makes sense if they use him more they can save wear and tear on Manu and Duncan.

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