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    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
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    So should you. You've dodged plenty in this thread.
    You might want to work on your reading comprehension.


    I agree that some people under some cir stances need governmental assistance. As a program, the food cards are probably better than some of the other programs.

    I honestly don't know what the answer is in weeding out the wheat from the chaff.

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    It is an enrollment figure. 45.8 million Americans.
    Thanks, that makes more sense!

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    There's nothing wrong with my reading comprehension, Cosmic. Perhaps your memory is faulty. I can list all the dodged questions if you like.

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    Apparently there is. I even reposted it for you a couple of posts back. Are you really that stupid?

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    No, all your attack posturing presumes that YOU have a solution.

    Put it out on the table so we can kick the tires.
    Attack posturing? i guess but my tone on this board is mostly adversarial. I don't see the 'welfare state' as 'conservatives' like to moniker as being a problem.

    I especially hate this particular line of reasoning because that was the same they fed us while Clinton passed the welfare reform bill and banking deregulation. That was that same Congress.

    Both were epic failures.

    The elites in this country have a very long history of trying to get the middle class to side with them by stirring up fear of the poor and minorities. I don't buy that line of thinking.

    You keep talking about how much tax you spend but 'welfare' dollars only comprise 10% or so of the budget. Of that 10% a lot is unemployment benefits, medicaid, etc. Very little of the pie goes to WIC, AFDC, and food stamps which are the clarion call for the 'welfare state' fearmongerer.

    They just try to get the middle class to worry about impoverished darkies instead of how the stock market fluates 5+% any time there is a move in the european debt market or how out of a country of 300 million people we get to choose from only the 7 of Obama, Romney, Cain, Perry, Bauchman, Gingrich and Santorum.

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    I was referring to your pattern of evasion and deflection throughout, CC. I don't deny you gave an honest reply in that one post.

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    Air should be provided to people who are unable to work for it. To those who simply choose not to work, air should not be provided. Doing so would only encourage more people to follow a similar path.

    I realize this is a very basic viewpoint, but how exactly can any hardworking person turn a blind eye to the amount of waste and laziness that's fostered by this program?
    Survival sure does motivate, but it might not motivate towards the best goals as far as society is concerned.

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    assuming that the people who live on welfare/foodstamps (tbh Im not very familiar with the particulars of how the system works) choose to do so over working the Valero cashier shift, maybe the question should be why are min. wage jobs so crap that people prefer welfare/foodstamps over them? perhaps they arent given enough shifts to make more working than they do from welfare, and if that is the case 1) you can't blame them for preferring welfare and 2) the problem is not only the way welfare program is structured, but also the quality of min. wage jobs available

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    assuming that the people who live on welfare/foodstamps (tbh Im not very familiar with the particulars of how the system works) choose to do so over working the Valero cashier shift, maybe the question should be why are min. wage jobs so crap that people prefer welfare/foodstamps over them? perhaps they arent given enough shifts to make more working than they do from welfare, and if that is the case 1) you can't blame them for preferring welfare and 2) the problem is not only the way welfare program is structured, but also the quality of min. wage jobs available
    minimum qualifications = minimum wage

    whose fault is that?

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    minimum qualifications = minimum wage

    whose fault is that?
    I don't know your answer to your question. Whose fault is it?

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    I don't know your answer to your question. Whose fault is it?
    uhhh...I guess the concept of personal responsibility is beyond you...

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    uhhh...I guess the concept of personal responsibility is beyond you...
    you just threw a blank "minimum qualifications" out there without assigning it to anyone or anything.

    I'm guessing now you are assigning it to the minimum wage employee, asserting that it his/her fault that they are working at a minimum wage job.

    For the record, just throwing it out there, Wild Cobra agrees with you in assigning blame to the worker.

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    CC: You said upstream the underclass is "growing exponentially." Can you back that up or, at least, quantify the exponent?

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    you just threw a blank "minimum qualifications" out there without assigning it to anyone or anything.

    I'm guessing now you are assigning it to the minimum wage employee, asserting that it his/her fault that they are working at a minimum wage job.

    For the record, just throwing it out there, Wild Cobra agrees with you in assigning blame to the worker.
    Look head...minimum wage jobs are minimum wage jobs because they require minimum skill to do the job. Employers gladly pay for skills that will make them money. Skip school, don't get a decent education, don't have a good work ethic and minimum wage is what you can expect because that is all you are worth to an employer. My cheapest employee makes over twice minimum wage, but that's because he has skills that contribute to the overall good of the company.

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    CC: You said upstream the underclass is "growing exponentially." Can you back that up?
    Sure.

    Just look at the poverty statistics in Texas.

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    Your claim, your burden. If you've got nothing, just say so.

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    Your claim, your burden. If you've got nothing, just say so.


    I do not have the burden of attempting to educate you just because I post in this forum. You have to take a little responsibility on yourself.

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    here is a teaser. Google is your friend.


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    minimum qualifications = minimum wage

    whose fault is that?
    But you didn't address his point. Is it welfare being "too good" or minimum wage being "too low"? Both?

    When minimum wage jobs need to be supplemented with welfare because they don't provide enough not to be on welfare, it's time to look not just at welfare, but also at minimum wage. And I believe that was his point.

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    here is a teaser. Google is your friend.

    I think that just shows the number of poor kids being enrolled in school has increased - not that the overall number of poor people have increased.

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    But you didn't address his point. Is it welfare being "too good" or minimum wage being "too low"? Both?

    When minimum wage jobs need to be supplemented with welfare because they don't provide enough not to be on welfare, it's time to look not just at welfare, but also at minimum wage. And I believe that was his point.

    I personally think that when unearned en lement payments are > or = to minimum wage that it is a disincentive to take an entry level position.

    The fact that they have no marketable skills (justifying the employer only offering minimum wage) does not mean that they COULD NOT LEARN MARKETABLE SKILLS IF they took a minimum wage position and worked their way up.

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    Skip school, don't get a decent education, don't have a good work ethic and minimum wage is what you can expect because that is all you are worth to an employer.
    now you are assuming that minimum wage workers lack education and good work ethics.

    you're an ignorant dumb , tbh.

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    I think that just shows the number of poor kids being enrolled in school has increased - not that the overall number of poor people have increased.

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    Did I say something funny?

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    I do not have the burden of attempting to educate you just because I post in this forum. You have to take a little responsibility on yourself.


    You obviously don't care how stupid and ignorant you look.

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