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    yup. Bush got the re-election even though same hate was coming from Left.

    actually this looks exactly like the Bush reelection but inverted.
    I don't think this is the inverse-2004 because as hated as Bush was on the left is as loved as he was on the right. Obama has managed to become hated by the right, while losing favor with much of the left. Whatever enthusiasm Obama had engendered with his base coming into office has radically depleted over the past three years.

    I agree that Romney is the inevitable candidate and as long as he doesn't pull a "Palin" out of his hat, this should be a tightly contested race.

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    Romney is the only one that has a good shot to pull some of the independent vote, and he'll get a huge turnout from the conservatives who will vote anyone other than Obama. Any other candidate will only pull the conservative base that Romney would get anyways. I honestly think Romney would mop the floor with Obama, while any of the right-wing extremists would be the 2012 version of Sharron Angle.
    I mostly agree with this take, though I don't think Romney will "wipe the floor" with Obama even if he is the nominee. I just hope Romney doesn't look at the mild support he's getting from the so-called republican base and make the same mistake McCain did in '08 when he chose Palin.

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    Obama really was doing bad around 2 months ago. Then he started giving it to the Congress. And when Congress approval rating is 8%, that is the right thing to do.

    He is pretty much in good shape for his re-election. With the freak show of GOP candidates that are mauling each other on a daily basis, Obama probably wakes up every morning with this face:




    sorry guys, but 4 more years is a done deal
    ..and Bush 1 in '90 had a 70% + approval.
    Yep.

    Right now with the republicans battling it out, Obama isn't being scrutinized so well. Once there is a single republican against Obama, and the battle becomes Obama against winner... the numbers will shift.

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    Yep.

    Right now with the republicans battling it out, Obama isn't being scrutinized so well. Once there is a single republican against Obama, and the battle becomes Obama against winner... the numbers will shift.
    Then they'll start the birth certificate argument again.

    It's a sure winner.

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    Then they'll start the birth certificate argument again.

    It's a sure winner.
    I doubt it, except for maybe criticizing how poorly he handled it.

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    I doubt it, except for maybe criticizing how poorly he handled it.
    Bringing up failed arguments from four years ago sounds like a surefire way to win the nomination.

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    I doubt it, except for maybe criticizing how poorly he handled it.
    But you'll cut him slack on that, because nobody's perfect, right? It makes you like him more.

    Hypocrite.

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    Bringing up failed arguments from four years ago sounds like a surefire way to win the nomination.
    LOL...

    How many times do you think Obama will blame Bush?

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    But you'll cut him slack on that, because nobody's perfect, right? It makes you like him more.

    Hypocrite.
    Sure, I will. But people like you have proven otherwise.

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    Which is why you just brought it up.

    More sefl-ownage.

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    LOL...

    How many times do you think Obama will blame Bush?
    It doesn't matter. He's the in bent. He has a built-in advantage.

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    Next Argument: But... but... he said there were 57 states...

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    Next Argument: But... but... he said there were 57 states...
    And there are 57 Islamic states.

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    And there are 57 Islamic states.
    Here we go!


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    Hey...

    It was obvious you wanted me to say something about it, so I did.

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    Then there was the ipod.

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    And remember when he painted the logo on his jet?

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    And remember when he painted the logo on his jet?

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    He also put his feet on the Resolute Desk, you know!

    (Bush did too, of course, but he's not black so that's totally different)

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    It doesn't matter. He's the in bent. He has a built-in advantage.
    Normally I'd agree that the in bent has an advantage as the "devil you know", but there seem to be a few factors working against him at this point.

    1. Poor economic condition. It's often said that America votes with its wallet. Say whatever you want about who caused our current economic plight, the fact remains that our current president has spent trillions and lobbied for billions more with our country teetering on the brink of recession.

    2. Polarizing candidate. In today's politically-charged climate it's hard to find a candidate that ISN'T polarizing, and Obama certainly isn't an exception. His policies, most specifically the healthcare issue, were a big reason for the creation of the "radical" Tea Party movement. The "anybody but Obama" factor will play huge in this election.

    3. The record. Obama came into office on a swell of optimism for a changed culture in Washington...and almost no record of how he'd handle the seat. He's spent trillions, pushed a wildly unpopular healthcare bill, and much to the dismay of the voters who put him in office...he's been a foreign policy hawk. The last part is really the only area where he's shown leadership and strength, but again it's not an issue on which his base will side with him.

    All of that seems to at least level the playing field, if not put him at a disadvantage.

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    LOL...

    How many times do you think Obama will blame Bush?
    He doesn't need to. You obviously have not been paying attention to what hes been doing for the last month. It really is 1995 all over again and hes following Clinton's playbook while the GOP is more than happy to oblige.

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    If Cain doesn't get the nomination then i would put my money on Gingrich. Romney and Perry are rich in money but not acceptability.

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    If Cain doesn't get the nomination then i would put my money on Gingrich. Romney and Perry are rich in money but not acceptability.
    What makes you think Gingrich is acceptable?

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    I don't think Gingrich will get it either.

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    Romney looked strong last night. He is on cruise control right now.

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