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Hopefully this lockout ends. I prefer the players not getting greedy and just take the deal. But too many of them got families to feed. lol
If It weren't for the owners, the players wouldn't have an opprtunity to play a game for a living. 50/50 split is fair. What's unfair, however, is a bunch of cry baby basketball players crying over their 1% BRI while there are people in the real world without jobs because of the current economic climate.There will be a season, how many of these players do you honestly think have that much saved. I wouldnt be surprised If half are living paycheck to paycheck. They're about to get their last check of the year and the owners know it.
Hopefully this lockout ends. I prefer the players not getting greedy and just take the deal. But too many of them got families to feed. lol
^The owners caved last time. The players need to see this thru. The owners will roll over in the end.
Let's see, the NBA players are the highest paid athletes in the world and the owners are losing money, how are the players being mistreated again?
No they won't. It will be the players or no season.
you gotta believe 1-3 players are considered "star" players for their team...that leaves what 10-12 players not making the kind of money that would keep them good if a season is lost. There's gotta be alot of players really needing an NBA season to occur..Not to mention how many players will turn into shawn kemp if the lockout goes the entire season..
I cant wait to see players tweeting about how they feel about the proposal that was made tonight..so exciting...
marc stein already beleives they will try to decertify. interesting since wornjrhowski says he cant beleive the nba would throw away a season.
Ask your self how much you'd compromise, on a deal you felt was wrong, if you had 10 million + in your savings account. Too many owners and players have no qualms about taking a year off.....they have plenty of money for them and their children's children. Anyone who didn't get a good idea what Michael Jordan was all about from his acception speech into the HOF wasn't paying attention.
How many players do you really think save that much money to take a year off? I think there are many who need the season to happen..and speaking of Jordan, I used to think he was the greatest..but the man is clearly the greediest owner in the league..I mean the man is a global icon getting paid millions and he wants to have his cake and eat it too..The HOF speech as you stated summed him up...he should have taken a page out of DRob's book and thanked everyone else for his career instead of putting them on blast..the man is washed up and still wants to be relevant..hard to do that when your a horrible owner and responsible for the two worse draft picks in the history of the league (Kwame and Morrison)
looks like MJ is really going all out. david alridge says stern cannot go above 50 under any cir stances thats why they had this modified 50% deal. it says 51% but the players would need a miracle to ever receive that percentage. this is gonna go to soon.
That's what I'm saying. I don't think MJ gives a damn about anybody but himself. Most people used to think well of him until he revealed his true self, and that is what the players are up against.....greed and ego beyond belief. I'm now convinced the players will decertify and this season, at least, will be toast. Today's offer was the best they are going to offer the union, and that includes 2012.
Stern is doing a great job at dividing players. Players will need to work hard to counter that.
While the latest owners proposal is bad for players, it is way worse for big market owners. With no S/T and a MLE equivalent to the former LLE for taxpayers, big market owners are screwed. Teams like Lakers and Knicks will the biggest losers of this new CBA.
For the 49-51 BRI split proposed by the owners, I do think players will get 51% after few years. It will mainly be because the BRI will raise a lot with a relativity high inflation. Inflation is the easiest way to solve the US debt situation .
Just walk away.
When you consider 2 things I respectfully disagree: 1. Even at 50/50 it is misleading. The owners still have a ton of expenses that come off of their 50% whereas the players have primarily their agent's expense. You haven't heard of a single player that has lost money in the NBA. 2. The average NBA player's career is 3 seasons. Many lower level players will never play in the NBA again if the season gets cancelled. IMO, there are 3 or 4 lower level players for every star on the team.
If you have assets to protect and you are not buying metals, oil or Real Estate you are missing the boat, baby.
If its true players dropped offer to 51% & owners didn't concede anything they need to decertify.
^Nephew Deepy & I agree.
tee, hee.
But if they lose the season what is the offer gonna be then? Stern and the owners will try and low-ball them further probably citing uncertainty over the fans wanting to come back to the NBA off a lost season and likely the economy still being bad... I don't see how the players get a better deal if they lose the season. Owner are not going to get soft on the terms in the next 6 months..
It will be interesting to see how Media plays this now. They've got to be close to panic. They'll drive it the one way that serves their purpose... s that they are. We'll see what their talking points & marching orders are no later than tomorrow.
No the owners won't offer a better deal. The union will have to decertify and sue the NBA. The union won't have much of a choice, as far as I can see. This will mean the last year of some of the NBA's best going down the tubes. If they don't play this year, think of the marquee names that will be all but done.
"Other items in the new owners’ proposal related to rules for teams paying the luxury tax and for the use of the midlevel exception. Players have said the system issues are just as important as the BRI split"
Thank Christ.
Maybe MJ doesn't want a season to go forward with Kobe being close to six les. MJ has a lot to lose if Kobe matches his "airness" and this could give him a reason to be a hardliner as MJ may lose endorsements if Kobe equals/surpasses MJs le count.
One might be able to make a case that MJ has more riding on the NBA and lockout than an average owner in terms of his financial future.
The players already offered to offset the loss... they also offered reductions in contract years, etc... the fact is, the problem here is with a spending spree issue which is directly tied to the owners' recklessness, and they want the players to fix for them.
Some people have short memory. It wasn't the players that called themselves "partners" with the owners. It was David Stern himself when he rammed the salary cap during the 80's.
^That's my boy!
He's definitely doing his best to insure there is no basketball season. If they continue to tarnish the image of the NBA, his accomplishments look less impressive and more like WWE belts. If this ends up like hockey, it will probably not rebound until another era altogether (no pun intended).
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