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lol comparing a distributor to a slasher/scorer and wondering why there is a discrepancy in FTs
^Christ, Pass forgot his mother for a while is acting like somebody.
Matzel, Matzel.
lol comparing a distributor to a slasher/scorer and wondering why there is a discrepancy in FTs
Lol reason why I included Kareem
lol comparing a finesse center to a slasher/scorer and wondering why there is a FT discrepancy
lol changing argument by saying different eras get more FTs, but being 100% backwards on which era actually gets more FTs, and suddenly changing it to comparing individual players who have completely different playing styles
How about I bring Wilkins or Drexler into the discussion?
Oh, and
lol at saying lol to things you have no answer for.
lol ty arguments that constantly change when proven wrong as
That's pretty much the point I throw against you. You change your tactics to talking when you have nothing to say. You huff and puff your e-chest, hoping somebody will come and back you up. You say lol because you think somehow it adds credibility to your faltering logic that Kobe's FG% wouldn't be affected by the play in the 80s. You completely disregard that Drexler, Wilkins, Magic and Kareem had less FTA per season. I can bring more names, like Worthy and Dumars. I'm not talking about small discrepancies, very very large ones.
You circle around the point, ignore things you can't explain for and fill in your lack of logic with lols and talking. It's like you're being a scared little to admit that MAYBE officiating in the 1980s was more lenient than today.
lol you know a person has ing failed when they begin trying to compare james worthy, joe dumars, or dominique wilkins to kobe, and wonder why they got less career freethrows
Come now, don't you have a real reason besides "Well they played differently"? How often do I have to ask you to elaborate why players like Drexler had significantly less FTAs than Kobe? If it was, say, 1000 FTA difference, yeah sure that's no biggie. We're talking about something along the lines of 3000 FTAs.
Look, kid, if you can't bring anything to the discussion than just trot along and go play some NBA2k12. All you're doing is repeating the same crap and adding an lol somewhere to make it sound like you're right and know what you're talking about. To be honest, you sound like you never watched an NBA game before 2004.
lol drexler = kobe according to g1st
How was Oklahoma, stretch? Did you find Phillip?
Did you find Jones and tell him to get doooooooooooooooooooooooooown?
How do you "sweep yourself" in the playoffs? How do you lose by damn near 40 in an elimination game? How do you get so mad you forearm shove a defenseless member of the lollipop guild mid-layup? HOW THE DO YOU SWEEP YOURSELF?!?!?! Has to be among the dumbest I've ever heard.Losing that much of a lead and letting 1 player dominate you alone is an ass beating. It's supposed to be a team game, just sad if one player outscores you. Also, how do you blow a ~50% lead in the 4th?
Pretty solid ass beatings
More with the lols and subject changing? Since when did FTAs become a definite comparison of players? You're just trying to turn this into a Drexler vs Kobe discussion, don't bother because we already know Kobe is better. This is simply a discussion about officiating in the 80s being much more lenient than today.
Look, kid, you can sticker lol to everything you want, but it doesn't change the fact you have jack to say. You can't explain why people with longer careers, averaging a few less ppg and have comparable possession % have such lower FTA per season than Kobe. The man isn't D-whistle, he isn't the first person to play mid-range and do a fair share of attacking the basket.
You're just leaving an invitation for somebody to back you up because quite frankly, you don't have anything of worth to say. You hope somebody who actually knows what the he's talking about and has seen games from the 80s will swoop in and save you. Problem is, who would actually back up that the 80s had more lenient officiating?
Did I say "sweep yourself"? I don't really think I did, quote where I did and I'll explain or admit I said something illogical.
Also, happens. Never said LAL was perfect, 2008 was more of an ass-beating if you wanted to strike a nerve.
I answered this already on page 2, showing how Lakers history is full of some pretty one sided playoff losses. Thought I would add a bit more.Kobe Bryant series losing games and their scores
1997 vs Utah, 98-93
1998 vs Utah, 96-92
1999 vs San Antonio, 118-107
2003 vs San Antonio, 110-82
2004 vs Detroit, 100-87 *DET had a 23 point lead before LA outscored them in garbage time
2006 vs Phoenix, 121-90
2007 vs Phoenix, 119-110
2008 vs Boston, 131-92
2011 vs Dallas, 122-86
So out of 9 series losers, he got his ass beat in 5 of them. But if you take away his first 2 seasons since he was still a role player, and just use series' where he was a legitimate #1 and/or #2 player for the team, that number is 5 out of 7.
nobody quits on his team like Kobe.
Since the NBA/ABA merger, the Lakers have only missed the playoffs twice. Spurs are second with four times. When you make the playoffs that many times, the losses are going to come. Look at the Cavs history, for example, how many DNQ's and first round playoff losses. Missing the playoffs keeps you from getting wiped out when people notice most, but really, you are getting beat down multiple times during the season. If every team qualified for the playoffs, there would be some real humdingers in round 1.
Anyway, to answer how Kobe responded to those losses quoted above:
Beat Utah 3 straight playoffs, 2008-2010
Beat San Antonio 4 of 5 times; 2001, 2002, 2004, 2008.
Beat Phoenix 2010
Beat Boston 2010
Kobe never got a chance to get revenge on the Pistons, closest was 2008, but Boston beat Detroit in ECF. Kind of hard to avenge against an opponent in the opposite conference. Still, the Lakers hold a 9-3 edge career series vs. Pistons with 3-2 Lakers happening in LA and Detroit.
Kobe has a chance to get revenge against Dallas. He did against the others. Let's see what happens if they play again.
In addition to those above, Kobe is perfect against:
Blazers 5-0
Kings 3-0
Rockets 3-0
T-Wolves 2-0
Sonics/Thunder 2-0
Nuggets 2-0
Pacers 1-0
Sixers 1-0
Nets 1-0
Magic 1-0
Hornets 1-0
Plus another series win over Phoenix, bringing him to 2-2. Maybe nobody quits on his team like Kobe, but how many NBA greats have exacted revenge as often as Kobe? The only two teams that can say they beat and never lost to Kobe in the playoffs are Pistons and Mavs. There are 11 teams that always lost to him, more than half at least twice!
If anyone post merger has as good a mark as above as Kobe does, it's probably Magic, Bird, MJ, or Tim. Feel free to research anyone, it sounds like a good topic. Naturally, with The Lakers usually perennially in the top 10 of NBA teams, series wins against them will mean the most to a lot of fans.
Kobe does deserve his share of bashing, but here the deck is stacked against him with a biased slant. He's far from my favorite Laker ever, but he does come through after a loss.
Bend over. I'll strike a in' nerve.
Oh Curly, you're such a character
lol saying "Since when did FTAs become a definite comparison of players?" after being the one to use FTAs to judge players
lol mad
lol thinking drexler = kobe
found him. sucker punched him and gave him a black eye in the process
not only that, but hired a hitman to fire a shotgun in the face of stoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooopssssssssssssssss
Heh, you have nothing, do you? The topic was officiating, not player comparison. You're just ing out and trying to make this a player comparison because you have jack to say defending your stance on the 80s having more lenient officiating.
Take your fairweather fan ass back home, you probably never seen an NBA game before 2010.
Also, you aren't going to strike a nerve on me
I actually don't take sports seriously.
If, perhaps by chance, you wanted to put in the effort to strike a nerve. Compare Isiah Thomas with Magic, I had a pretty heated discussion about that once. Make it good, monkey boy.
lol overrating magic
lol saying that more FTs are shot in todays NBA than in the 80s, when the 80s actually shot more FTs
lol changing subject when proven wrong to comparing players instead of eras
lol comparing drex to kobe
lol changing subjects every post, then accusing me of changing subjects
lol getting mad then saying you werent mad
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