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    tbh, if it's just this woman, I would be severely more skeptic. But you're talking other 3 do ented payoffs of hush money for arguably the same "crime".

    None have come forward; except the one where there is no payoff. And THAT one lives in Axelrod's building?

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    None have come forward; except the one where there is no payoff. And THAT one lives in Axelrod's building?
    At least one of them signed an NDA as part of the payoff. That doesn't mean the allegations were not there, and money was not exchanged.

    We went from "that never happened", to "I don't recall signing a settlement", to "That was a long time ago"... come on. I won't hold him guilty of anything if a judge didn't, but don't tell me the allegations were not there.

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    You're right, just playin Devil's advocate; where there's smoke, etc....

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    Wow. Didn't think so many would line up with disbelieving EITHER man. The charges, ultimately, didn't fatally would Clinton. Will it be different for Cain?
    Yes.

    Cain's tiny war chest, puny campaign organization and total lack of political experience, put together with these allegations, are probably enough to sink him.

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    This victim of sexual assault sought Cain out at a Tea Party event and hugged him? Something doesn't add up.

    http://www.suntimes.com/8592168-417/...month-ago.html
    Like I said, they possibly already had consensual intimate contact in the past.

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    there is nothing tea baggers hate more than the thought of a black man on white woman.
    You sure are a prejudice head to believe such things. Maybe you are seeing your own racism in others?

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    tbh, if it's just this woman, I would be severely more skeptic. But you're talking other 3 do ented payoffs of hush money for arguably the same "crime".
    I see.

    Business en ies never settle when when they or their people are innocent.

    Aren't you on record someplace as saying it is often cheaper to settle than go to court, even when you are innocent?

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    Taking a poll.

    Do any people believe BOTH this girl AND Paula Jones.

    Or does anyone believe the stories from both of the Men (Bill Clinton and Hermann Cain) involved in each of those women's tales?

    If you believe one and not the other; do your political views, or party affiliation, align with the man you DO believe?

    I figure the last premise is going to be accurate for over 90% of posters and Americans. You all suck. This is a pointless, ridiculous exorcize. What ever did, or didn't happen is impossible to know; and anyone's opinion of it will be clouded by their tribal membership. Allred, after all, took THIS case, but was nowhere to be found for Paula Jones.
    I believe that Cain and Clinton both ed around on their wives. Do I believe their accusers story to be the EXACT truth?

    No.

    That, and the ridiculously expanded definition of "inappropriate behavior" create a huge amount of smoke with very little fire.

    Asking a woman to dinner now can be construed as a sexual advance...

    Huh?

    I just don't get that...

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    I see.

    Business en ies never settle when when they or their people are innocent.

    Aren't you on record someplace as saying it is often cheaper to settle than go to court, even when you are innocent?
    Nope. That was you. Cost shouldn't be an excuse for a multi-millionaire that's seeking a political career. I mean, it's a no-brainer.

    And BTW, I never said he's guilty of anything, actually, said the opposite. I just stated you can't tell me the allegations were not there. We're assessing credibility, not guilt.

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    @CC: You misrepesent the latest story, in which the lady asked out to dinner admits not knowing Cain's intentions. She has not accused him of anything improper.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67819.html

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    You misrepesent the latest story, in which the lady asked out to dinner admits not knowing Cain's intentions. She has not accused him of anything improper.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67819.html
    There is a 5th accuser now.

    She is accusing him of asking her out to dinner "which made her uncomfortable".

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    You should read the link instead of repeating what someone else said about it.

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    That's the story I was referring to. It was a dinner invitation. That's news?

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    Nope. But for the fact Politico ran it, it isn't.

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    Nope. That was you. Cost shouldn't be an excuse for a multi-millionaire that's seeking a political career. I mean, it's a no-brainer.

    And BTW, I never said he's guilty of anything, actually, said the opposite. I just stated you can't tell me the allegations were not there. We're assessing credibility, not guilt.
    I settled a totally frivolous lawsuit from a woman who accused me of slander for $10,000 about 10 years ago...I was totally innocent but it was the smart thing for me to do from a business standpoint.

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    I settled a totally frivolous lawsuit from a woman who accused me of slander for $10,000 about 10 years ago...I was totally innocent but it was the smart thing for me to do from a business standpoint.
    Do you expect that to come out if you're running for office?

    Again, if it's just one incident or even maybe two, I'll be skeptic. But when you're talking 4 allegations of the same thing, do you really expect me not to question your credibility? Especially after you deny it ever happened and then you change your tune?

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    @CC: Obviously it is just the same with the three women the NRA paid off to be quiet.

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    Do you expect that to come out if you're running for office?

    Again, if it's just one incident or even maybe two, I'll be skeptic. But when you're talking 4 allegations of the same thing, do you really expect me not to question your credibility? Especially after you deny it ever happened and then you change your tune?
    I can't help but wonder.

    If four years ago, Obama had four women making these claims, would the democrats be crying it was a racist setup?

    I didn't know Cain was accused of having dinner with the other three and moving his hand up their thigh, and acting like a teenager ion a date.

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    Do you expect that to come out if you're running for office?

    Again, if it's just one incident or even maybe two, I'll be skeptic. But when you're talking 4 allegations of the same thing, do you really expect me not to question your credibility? Especially after you deny it ever happened and then you change your tune?
    You're asking Republican supporters to be logical?

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    I'm surprised nobody responded to my comment of this fourth woman having a 13 year old son, and this encounter was 1997. Wouldn't that be something if he was Cain's son?

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    Asking a woman to dinner now can be construed as a sexual advance...

    Huh?

    I just don't get that...
    O/T:

    I have a teenage daughter. I guarandamntee you that if a boy asks her to dinner that's exactly how I construe it.

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    O/T:

    I have a teenage daughter. I guarandamntee you that if a boy asks her to dinner that's exactly how I construe it.
    I have two daughters. My youngest will be 24 in February.

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    I can't help but wonder.

    If four years ago, Obama had four women making these claims, would the democrats be crying it was a racist setup?
    It's not about Obama. And if Obama had four women making claims during his campaign I'm sure people would have used some common sense and said something wasn't right. Then Hilary would have no doubt whooped his ass in the primaries. One or two women you could give Cain the benefit of the doubt but four is just too much to ignore...especially seeing the way an idiot like Cain has handled all this .

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    The third woman is obviously a lying lib with knives out for republicans:

    http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/11...n-accuser-1-3/

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    The third woman is obviously a lying lib with knives out for republicans:

    http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/11...n-accuser-1-3/
    LOL...

    A journalist who doesn't make something up?

    Give me a break.

    LOL'...

    LOL./..


    LOL.../

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