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    If the owners would just give a few inches on the system, a few wins for Fisher to sell, a deal would be done. Problem is the owners will not do it.

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    Players team reps (all 30 teams) are meeting right now.

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    5. Turning Bruce Bowen into something
    What? Bowen was considered one of the top defensive players in the league in Miami. He didn't have the corner three before he came to SA, but he wasn't some scrub either.

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    What? Bowen was considered one of the top defensive players in the league in Miami. He didn't have the corner three before he came to SA, but he wasn't some scrub either.
    He was a 30yo that played on multiple NBA teams and overseas(I think). He hardly had a bright future in the NBA. Spurs made him a starter on championship teams for many years. He hit his prime after 30.

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    He was a 30yo that played on multiple NBA teams and overseas(I think). He hardly had a bright future in the NBA. Spurs made him a starter on championship teams for many years. He hit his prime after 30.
    Get your facts straight.

    He was 2nd team All-NBA Defense the year before he joined the Spurs.

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    Get your facts straight.

    He was 2nd team All-NBA Defense the year before he joined the Spurs.
    Which is another reason to be pissed at RJ's opt-out and extension; if he hadn't opted out, we probably could have traded him for Gerald Wallace.

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    Get ready for Nathan telling you that your facts only disprove your argument and his now.

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    if he hadn't opted out, we probably could have traded him for Gerald Wallace.
    50 year old Bowen for GForce? No thanks.























































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    Get your facts straight.

    He was 2nd team All-NBA Defense the year before he joined the Spurs.
    And yet the team was on let him walk. I'm aware that he was recognized for his defense before he came to the Spurs. That doesn't negate the fact that he was an pivotal part of the Spurs well past the age of 30. He developed a great corner 3 late in his career.

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    Get ready for Nathan telling you that your facts only disprove your argument and his now.
    Shut-up dip .

    The facts you backed disproved what you said. Get over it.

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    And yet the team was on let him walk. I'm aware that he was recognized for his defense before he came to the Spurs. That doesn't negate the fact that he was an pivotal part of the Spurs well past the age of 30. He developed a great corner 3 late in his career.
    Just so you know, everyone can see when you move the goalposts.

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    Owners don't have the power to end it right now?



    Are you trolling? You're the hero by bending over? Is that how you negotiate your contracts?



    The league already played his card to prevent decertification, which was both a lawsuit deemed 'thin' by a judge last week, and filings to the NLRB. They've also stated they would file a suit seeking to declare all contracts null and void (questionable whether it would succeed, since it's never been done before in a lockout case). Bottom line though is that decertification will kick the game board and owners won't be in full control anymore (neither will players).

    If the union decides to decertify, I expect those 45 days that takes for the NLRB to decide to allow it or not to be pretty tense and include a flurry of negotiations.
    Yeah, I'm trolling.

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    Just so you know, everyone can see when you move the goalposts.


    Presenting the facts is not moving goalposts.

    Him making 2nd team all-defense hardly disqualifies him as one of the "stars that aligned". Now that I discussed the many reasons for that we and end the discussion.

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    Bowen most assuredly wasn't the nobody you were implying him to be. The Spurs got him for $700,000 only because he really wanted to be here. He turned down an offer of full MLE from Portland ($4.5 million a season) to sign with the Spurs.

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    Presenting the facts is not moving goalposts.

    Him making 2nd team all-defense hardly disqualifies him as one of the "stars that aligned". Now that I discussed the many reasons for that we and end the discussion.

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    Bowen most assuredly wasn't the nobody you were implying him to be. The Spurs got him for $700,000 only because he really wanted to be here. He turned down an offer of full MLE from Portland ($4.5 million a season) to sign with the Spurs.
    Presenting more reasons of stars aligning.

    either way you look at it

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    tbh, I also don't understand why Spursfan is so adamant to have a season... so we can discuss:

    - "Bonner isn't a bad player, he's just used in the wrong role"
    - "RJ sucks because he doesn't fit on our game style"
    - "Pop has 4 rings and watches every practice. That's why Leonard is glued to the bench"
    - "Tiago just needs to develop a jumper or he'll get his weak blocked every time"
    - "I can't believe Blair not only got fatter but he still doesn't have a jumper"

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    Shut-up dip .

    The facts you backed disproved what you said. Get over it.

    I said I didn't want to argue with you. You are free to have opinions not backed up with substance and to move goal posts all you want.

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    Presenting more reasons of stars aligning.

    either way you look at it
    This schtick is money. You did it again! Argue something. Get proof youre wrong then say the proof that contradicts what you say only disproves both people.

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    tbh, I also don't understand why Spursfan is so adamant to have a season... so we can discuss:

    - "Bonner isn't a bad player, he's just used in the wrong role"
    - "RJ sucks because he doesn't fit on our game style"
    - "Pop has 4 rings and watches every practice. That's why Leonard is glued to the bench"
    - "Tiago just needs to develop a jumper or he'll get his weak blocked every time"
    - "I can't believe Blair not only got fatter but he still doesn't have a jumper"
    Funny stuff.

    Still, I'd rather have those discussions than:

    - "I can't believe we lost Duncan's last season to that stupid lockout"


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    Racist comment of the day!

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    T2S with his typical quality posts.

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    Bonner not a bad player? Used wrong? Bonner sucks......we are the only team in the NBA that would pay this guy. Cant defend, cant rebound, not a good passer.....we do use him wrong, we should be using him as a security guard not a pf

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    Funny stuff.

    Still, I'd rather have those discussions than:

    - "I can't believe we lost Duncan's last season to that stupid lockout"

    Duncan's last season was probably around 2008, tbh

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