Women Comes Forward Publicly Accusing Cain of Harrassment

[Warlord23]

Separation of Church and State? Just curious, to what are you referring? I obviously missed something.

It wasn't exactly about church/state separation, it was more about freedom of religion.

He supported a town in Tennessee that wanted to ban the construction of a mosque, and tried to make an argument that the plan to build the mosque was "an infringement and an abuse of our freedom of religion".

Behold the sheer stupidity of his argument: building the mosque is the infringement on religious freedom, not banning the mosque

[ElNono]

I can't help but wonder.

Sure you could help it. You just won't though and that makes for great comedy, tbh...

[Wild Cobra]

Sure you could help it. You just won't though and that makes for great comedy, tbh...

Sorry, I have a very active mind. I'm often an insomniac, not able to sleep because my mind is always on.

[ElNono]

If four years ago, Obama had four women making these claims, would the democrats be crying it was a racist setup?

I think his credibility would be in shambles. I don't think party has much to do with it. Don't know if you noticed the question 101A asked and the responses he received.

[Wild Cobra]

I think his credibility would be in shambles. I don't think party has much to do with it. Don't know if you noticed the question 101A asked and the responses he received.

Do you mean the "girl" and Paula Jones one?

One is 20/20 with hindsight. The other isn't. Apples and oranges at this point.

If that's not it, I can't think of what you mean off the top on my head.

[ElNono]

Do you mean the "girl" and Paula Jones one?

One is 20/20 with hindsight. The other isn't. Apples and oranges at this point.

You're still missing the point. We're assessing credibility, not guilt.

[clambake]

You sure are a prejudice head to believe such things. Maybe you are seeing your own racism in others?

I can't help but wonder.

If four years ago, Obama had four women making these claims, would the democrats be crying it was a racist setup?

lol self owned

[Wild Cobra]

You're still missing the point. We're assessing credibility, not guilt.

And what have we seen in the line of credibility so far?

I cannot recall the details that far back on the Jones case. Besides, I never worried about such an issue. I don't even remember if her case was ever considered credible. Just because Lewinski had a consensual affair, doesn't mean Clinton propositioned Jones either.

If you recall, I am on record in these forums stating at least twice now, that I didn't care about Clinton's private life, and only disliked his politics. I find it funny, that effectively, the same mindset of people who believe in personal liberties, are using these allegations. There are still no tangible facts.

By now, I'll bet a journalist has contacted the Hilton to verify if Cain upgraded her room. Anyone see the news on that yet?

[LnGrrrR]

Like I said, they possibly already had consensual intimate contact in the past.

That really is here nor there when it comes to this claim.

[ChumpDumper]

LOL...

A journalist who doesn't make something up?

Give me a break.

LOL'...

LOL./..


LOL.../

What are you saying is made up here?

You're saying all journalists make stuff up?

You have constantly made stuff up in this thread.

[Wild Cobra]

That really is here nor there when it comes to this claim.

Allegations are true or not. They cause speculation on our part which too, is true or not. i try to see the possibilities, and I'm only pointing some out.

[hitmanyr2k]

By now, I'll bet a journalist has contacted the Hilton to verify if Cain upgraded her room. Anyone see the news on that yet?

This is what I don't understand. waiting for journalists. If I were seriously running for the highest office in the United States I would've had my people investigating and getting the facts the moment I heard her bull story or any of the other women making claims. I would have all my ducks in a row for the press conference to shoot down every last detail that I could and make her look like the liar she is....if she was actually being untruthful. If she's being truthful then what the can he do except deny it?

[ElNono]

And what have we seen in the line of credibility so far?

Already clearly stated previously in the thread. Everyone can see what they want to see.

[boutons_deux]

Wash. Times, Fox Still Baselessly Suggesting Top Chicago Dems Are Behind The Cain Leak

After Fox News' Chris Wallace dismissed an anonymous claim, reported by The Washington Times' Kerry Picket, that Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel was behind the sexual harassment allegations against Herman Cain, Picket is back at it again with help from the Fox Nation.

Picket reported a claim by an anonymous source that Emanuel likely leaked the story about sexual harassment allegations against Cain:

Herman Cain's campaign is revealing su ions about who is behind the story regarding the former unidentified employees who accused Mr. Cain of sexual harassment in the late 1990's.

According to a source who is friends with the Cain campaign, not only is the Rick Perry campaign involved but also the Mayor of Chicago and former Obama White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel is likely involved with the sexual harassment accuser attacks. A friend of the Cain campaign believes a National Restaurant Association (NRA) employee out of the Chicago office leaked the story to the Perry campaign via information and influence from Mayor Rahm Emanuel's office.

When asked about Picket's report, Wallace said it "seems really thin." Wallace also suggested it doesn't make sense that Emanuel would leak the story, because it would not benefit Obama, whereas leaking it in "September or October of 2012" would. Nevertheless, right-wing media, including Fox, hyped the anonymously sourced claim about Emanuel to cast doubt on the allegations.


http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011110...County+Fair%29

[Wild Cobra]

Wash. Times, Fox Still Baselessly Suggesting Top Chicago Dems Are Behind The Cain Leak

After Fox News' Chris Wallace dismissed an anonymous claim, reported by The Washington Times' Kerry Picket, that Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel was behind the sexual harassment allegations against Herman Cain, Picket is back at it again with help from the Fox Nation.

Picket reported a claim by an anonymous source that Emanuel likely leaked the story about sexual harassment allegations against Cain:

Herman Cain's campaign is revealing su ions about who is behind the story regarding the former unidentified employees who accused Mr. Cain of sexual harassment in the late 1990's.

According to a source who is friends with the Cain campaign, not only is the Rick Perry campaign involved but also the Mayor of Chicago and former Obama White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel is likely involved with the sexual harassment accuser attacks. A friend of the Cain campaign believes a National Restaurant Association (NRA) employee out of the Chicago office leaked the story to the Perry campaign via information and influence from Mayor Rahm Emanuel's office.

When asked about Picket's report, Wallace said it "seems really thin." Wallace also suggested it doesn't make sense that Emanuel would leak the story, because it would not benefit Obama, whereas leaking it in "September or October of 2012" would. Nevertheless, right-wing media, including Fox, hyped the anonymously sourced claim about Emanuel to cast doubt on the allegations.


http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011110...County+Fair%29

Wasn't that same news posted a couple ago?

[Stringer_Bell]

This is a hi-tech lynching through the media. Why is the MSM so scared of Cain? He's an idiot and has no chance of winning anyway, no reason to drag him through the mud by parading out a bunch of ugly white women.

[Wild Cobra]

This is a hi-tech lynching through the media. Why is the MSM so scared of Cain? He's an idiot and has no chance of winning anyway, no reason to drag him through the mud by parading out a bunch of ugly white women.

They both do have at least one unattractive attribute, don't they. Makes me wonder if they are doing this out of spite because maybe Cain blew off their advances.

How many times have we seen in high school, when a woman shuns a guy, he makes up a story calling her a . How many times have we seen when a woman is shunned, she cries rape.

Not saying that is what happened, just that is is another possibility.

[clambake]

They both do have at least one unattractive attribute, don't they. Makes me wonder if they are doing this out of spite because maybe Cain blew off their advances.

How many times have we seen in high school, when a woman shuns a guy, he makes up a story calling her a . How many times have we seen when a woman is shunned, she cries rape.

Not saying that is what happened, just that is is another possibility.

yep.....they got paid. happens all the time lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

WC you need to realize that you are not helping Cain's case in the public view. You are just mentally vomiting excuses into this thread. How about you consider the possibilities that one of these women is actually telling the truth.

The truth is important don't you think?

[Wild Cobra]

WC you need to realize that you are not helping Cain's case in the public view. You are just mentally vomiting excuses into this thread. How about you consider the possibilities that one of these women is actually telling the truth.

The truth is important don't you think?

I have considered the possibility they are telling the truth. have you ever seen me say they were lying? the closest you will find is my comment about the former journalist. which is in effect, are we suppose to believe her because of journalistic integrity? I still didn't say she way lying, and am open to possibility Cain really did these things. I just don't buy I yet.

Do I think the truth is important? Depends on the topic and timeline.

If we are going to judge an alleged act done in 1997, then we need to judge it by those standards. Not today's. Unless there is far more proof than still offered to date, it's just a "he said she said."

Tell me. Has a journalist dig up the records yet showing Cain upgraded her room?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

All i see is you putting forth every scenario that creates an excuse or exoneration for Herman Cain and no scenarios where he may be culpable.

[Wild Cobra]

All i see is you putting forth every scenario that creates an excuse or exoneration for Herman Cain and no scenarios where he may be culpable.

Really...

Did I not throw out the idea of the fact the 4th accuser has a 13 year old son, and this is a 1997 allegation? Do the math.

I have said a few other things that would not look good for Cain.

I am showing the possibilities I don't see other people expressing. There is plenty of accusations saying he has done wrong, and i never said it didn't happen. I don't need to add to that pile. It's already there.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This is also considered sexual harasment by some:

It seems to me... and yes, I could be wrong... that Cain is not being taken out by facts, so fiction may be the tool to take him out.

So he pulled a high school date stunt. As soon as she indicated she didn't want such contact, he backed off... Right or wrong, by her account?

Hmmm...

So, "toward my genitals," without touching them, is contact?

Wow... You consider that a misdemeanor?

Look, if this is true, it was definitely a classless move. Something I expect more than half the people here would do with a chick date in a car.

Don't forget I have said I generally either spoil my vote on a third party, or vote republican. The reason is I cannot stand most democrats because most democrats are liberals.

I am not pro republican.

I am anti democrat.

That was not sexual contact.

OK, I can accept some of that. However, let your bias go for a minute, and think outside the box, of the "what ifs."

One example.

What if these two had an affair some time earlier. Maybe moths ago, maybe years. What if they already knew each other intimately in the past. Maybe, from how she describes the events, Cain heard:

1) I'm coming to see you.

2) I have a hotel at the Hilton.

3) Where do you want to meet?

Now Cain upgrades the room, expecting a sexual encounter. Wines and dines her, then parks to make sure if he's wrong, he doesn't make a scene in public.

Do you think this is plausible?

As for an alleged misdemeanor...

Cain caught Jaywalking... News at 11...

Equal by law, right? If a candidate ever was ticketed for jaywalking, should that be the end of his candicy?

Also, back to 1997, what ever law you find today, was it even such a law, or viewed the same in 1997?

Do you mean the "girl" and Paula Jones one?

One is 20/20 with hindsight. The other isn't. Apples and oranges at this point.

If that's not it, I can't think of what you mean off the top on my head.

Really...

Did I not throw out the idea of the fact the 4th accuser has a 13 year old son, and this is a 1997 allegation? Do the math.

I have said a few other things that would not look good for Cain.

I am showing the possibilities I don't see other people expressing. There is plenty of accusations saying he has done wrong, and i never said it didn't happen. I don't need to add to that pile. It's already there.

This is also considered sexual harasment by some:

It seems to me... and yes, I could be wrong... that Cain is not being taken out by facts, so fiction may be the tool to take him out.

So he pulled a high school date stunt. As soon as she indicated she didn't want such contact, he backed off... Right or wrong, by her account?

Hmmm...

So, "toward my genitals," without touching them, is contact?

Wow... You consider that a misdemeanor?

Look, if this is true, it was definitely a classless move. Something I expect more than half the people here would do with a chick date in a car.

Don't forget I have said I generally either spoil my vote on a third party, or vote republican. The reason is I cannot stand most democrats because most democrats are liberals.

I am not pro republican.

I am anti democrat.

That was not sexual contact.

OK, I can accept some of that. However, let your bias go for a minute, and think outside the box, of the "what ifs."

One example.

What if these two had an affair some time earlier. Maybe moths ago, maybe years. What if they already knew each other intimately in the past. Maybe, from how she describes the events, Cain heard:

1) I'm coming to see you.

2) I have a hotel at the Hilton.

3) Where do you want to meet?

Now Cain upgrades the room, expecting a sexual encounter. Wines and dines her, then parks to make sure if he's wrong, he doesn't make a scene in public.

Do you think this is plausible?

As for an alleged misdemeanor...

Cain caught Jaywalking... News at 11...

Equal by law, right? If a candidate ever was ticketed for jaywalking, should that be the end of his candicy?

Also, back to 1997, what ever law you find today, was it even such a law, or viewed the same in 1997?

You have absolutely no interest in the truth whatsoever.

[Winehole23]

But plenty in muddying the waters. Pettifoggery would be WC's forte if he was any good at it.

[Wild Cobra]

Fuzzy... Are you stalking me?