Because that is what I believe is the right and moral thing to do.
Just as I believe that lying or deliberately misleading people to make them think your point of view is superior to others is wrong.
Your definition of atheist is a bit off. An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a god, not someone who is 110% convinced there can be no such thing. Atheism isn't some kind of polar opposite to an absolutely certain belief that Jesus, Jehova, and company are going to save one's soul.
[QUOTE=redzero;5465227]I don't even know what you're trying to say here.
you're making an evidence based claim. mine is faith. i don't have to prove to you. you do. now if you had said "i believe there is no God" that would've been logical. but you're too emotional on this subject to let logic get in the way.Still waiting for your proof God doesn't exist though.[/youtube]
Still waiting on your proof that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist. If you can't provide any, you must convert at once.
using "you can't prove he doesn't exist!" as an argument
What claims are you talking about?
One lying to themself to give their life meaning is sad.
Uh, no. Meaning in life depends entirely on the person.
Humans give actions labels. Nothing is objectively wrong when it comes to morals.
Innate sense. Hmmm. Probably why those crazy bible bangers started the abolitionist movement.
Honestly, I'm not a religious person, but why do religious people bother you so much?
the way i understood it was they give no contemplation to such outlandish, fantastical beliefs that an afterlife exists because as redzero said it's flying spaghetti to them.
I'm atheist, and I don't need a 2000 year old book to explain morality to me. Stop making assumptions Darrin, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. If anything, the thought of no afterlife drives me to appreciate my life and the lives of others 100x more.
Where have I lied?
Why not rape and pillage (see Occupy movement). You're only a piece of meat after all.
Because I don't have the urge to hurt others.... is that something religion limits for you?
Pick just about any AGW thread.
I define lying as rather deliberately and systematically telling things that are half-true.
Once or twice and it can be chalked up to simple omissions or mistakes.
Once half-truths and the concealing of information become a pattern that definitely becomes lying, as it is a deliberate attempt to mislead, just as if you make up out of whole cloth.
The Christian tradition being right is equivalent to flying spaghetti: just a complete shot in the dark with no kind of evidence, much less proof, to illuminate the way.
where have i said anything about christianity? i'm talking about theists. i've not mentioned any specific religion.
What claim am I making?
i.e. logic doesn't applymine is faith.
...because you can't because your position is completely illogical.i don't have to prove to you.
Why?you do.
now if you had said "i believe there is no God" that would've been logical. but you're too emotional on this subject to let logic get in the way.
And again, what claim am I making? Please point to the post you are referring to.
I'm not religious. Why do you suppose that you don't have the urge to hurt others?
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a response to fundamentalist Christianity specifically. Maybe DoK meant it differently.
Because wanting to kill off your own kind wouldn't be something nature would select for?
Lol "concealing information". I'm not one of the climategate scientists conspiring to subvert the peer review process or skirt FOI laws. You're just a simple hypocrite RG.
Again, Darrin, when is God going to get around to feeding the starving, curing the sick, etc? For somebody who is infinitely powerful and infinitely good, he doesn't do much charity work.
Sorry, it's not weak and I understand the premise. I don't know why God gives some seemingly tougher paths than others. I certainly don't think that those who experience hardship are being punished for something they did...or that God isn't answering their prayers.
Again, the best way I can explain it is to say that each person has a path and they can choose to walk it with God or without.
???????
Perhaps the convenience of not landing in jail?
Maybe they just don't really care and rather spend their time on something else...
Can baseline bum and I just copy and paste from the thousands of posts on the subject in the Classic Threads forum?
Well you told us this:
and when asked where you got it from you told us:And yet
When in fact you had really gotten it from a mailer that WC was kind enough to post for us
and you would not link the source because it quite clearly tells us that the chart was from a think tank who housed by a mining lobby. It was intentionally deceptive as you knew the source was .
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