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as did I.
They should also not get into a 4 year relatively money contract. Otherwise you end up with Matt Bonner making more money than the reigning NBA MVP. I think the last proposal from the union on this topic was actually accepted by the owners, and that was to create a fund where some of these players would get a bonus if they meet certain criteria, like in Rose case.
The challenge for the union as the league's end-of-business deadline draws closer is -- meeting or no meeting -- to not blink, not panic, not anger, if the owners yank one football away and replace it with another that's less appealing.
"For them to use that tactic, we're not going to let it intimidate us," said San Antonio rep Matt Bonner, a member of the union's executive committee. "You've got to think that, if they want to get a deal, going backwards and creating more distance, that doesn't seem like a very logical way to move towards ending this thing.
"We've been pretty consistent the whole way in negotiating to try to get a deal done. We haven't done any hocus-pocus. Despite everything we've given, they're still not moving towards us and even talk about moving backwards. It's really hard to address that."
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Bonner ing me over again.
Bonner is the backbone of the union without him they would have caved.
The players have painted the owners into the corner using the BRI. They're offering 50-50 now, but, the owners have to straighten up on the system. I said this from the very beginning:::the BRI was a smokescreen.
Sure, the owners can scoff and reject it, but, the players will have the high, solid ground. They'll have given up over a quarter billion dollars from 57 to 50. The owners can't take the 7 points and make the players eat the sandwich on the system. It's inconceivable as a reality.
The players are ing themselves my not taking the offer. I've already stated that the owners could care less if the season is lost if it meant a better deal. If the players don't take the offer, there will be no basketball to watch. Simple as that. Owners will not cave.
Then there will be no basketball to watch. I think it's pretty clear at this point that saving the season isn't really a priority.
It's just really hard for me to see the players giving up an entire years pay.
If the players are really willing to do with 50-50, I can't see the owners giving up a season over slight system changes, unless they just really want to be greedy heads.
Then again, they haven't shown a lot of indication otherwise so far.
And I'm still pissed because all these mother ers are vastly overpaid in the first place.
You can also draft a Tim Duncan, win a le two years later with that guy being finals MVP... and then he breaks his knee, career over...
IMHO a player should make money according to his expected production, not according to a rookie scale.
It does not make sense to sign Lebron and Kwame for the same money.
Today could be the day. Both sides are so close of a deal that it would dumb to lose again time.
Each day lost costs $12M to players and it costs too money to owners. And I'm not counting damages done to the image of the NBA.
Players haven't lost a dime yet.
The owners, they've taken a bath.
Stand fast owners.........
Players better quite listening to the agents or there season (and paychecks) well be gone....
Owners better start to negotiate or the season is gone. . .
http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-uni...cus-on-system/“I don’t want any of my clients playing for Michael Jordan, Paul Allen, Robert Sarver, Dan Gilbert or Peter Holt,” said one agent. “We won’t sign with them, unless they’re willing to really overpay. That’s going to be the only way these hardline owners are going to land any free agents after the way they’ve handled these negotiations.”
These small-market teams have a hard enough time trying to attract free agents. It won’t be any easier now thanks to the way the hardline owners have been depicted throughout this process.
the owners. 57% employees, 43% employers, or bust.
I'm just shocked at the number of people on this site that blame the players for the same thing you could easily blame the owners for. It is just awful logic. I'm also shocked at how you can't see what the owners are doing and how the players have made every concession; very large concessions & the owners not only fail to move forward, but threaten to move backwards?
I agree the players have been unorganized and shuffled their feet some, but that is the only thing you can be upset about towards them IMO. Even then I have a hard time getting upset at that considering they did that because they had the (foolish) hope the owners wanted to negotiate in good faith. The owners are the greedy liars here and this CLEARLY falls on them IMO.
What is new ?
Small market team already has to overpay to attract free agent unless they are contender (Spurs, Cleveland's Lebron).
That's true, but the Spurs FO is taking a big image hit with Holts actions along with RC turning into Josh Hamilton. There will be some push back even after a deal is agreed upon. The Spurs never got any big time FAs really anyway so much won't change. Problem is we had Duncan and now the Spurs need FAs.
Dark days ahead. .
These owners won't budge today. That's my guess. They will follow through with their stance of offering a worse deal and dare the players to decertify. Only then will the owners remotely face any kind of incentive to think about negotiating.
It's been about the system since day one. Everyone knew it, but, Media wouldn't cite it because it was a doomsday event. There was no way back from it, no "fun" in it like battling over the neat BRI. And the players could move the BRI ("we'll sell more wampum") after they signed a deal.
You can't move the system once it's signed.
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NBA & players finalizing details for meeting this afternoon in NYC. Most likely 1 pm, source says.
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